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 This doesn't just list all-creatures, but also lists some which //**don't**// count, but which //could// count...//maybe//. Or I list them just to dismiss them. This doesn't just list all-creatures, but also lists some which //**don't**// count, but which //could// count...//maybe//. Or I list them just to dismiss them.
 ==== Elves ==== ==== Elves ====
-Elves are, besides zombies, probably the principle example of all-creatures. Since Tolkien, elves have mostly existed in three major forms: High, Wood, Dark...though people have come up with many other kinds of elf, or remixed them into who knows what.+[[lb:Elves]] are, besides zombies, probably the principle example of all-creatures. Since Tolkien, elves have mostly existed in three major forms: High, Wood, Dark...though people have come up with many other kinds of elf, or remixed them into who knows what.
  
-They also ended up absorbing other fantasy creatures, especially in the popular exception. It's difficult to differentiate [[lb:Fey]] from Elves, for example.+They also ended up absorbing other fantasy creatures, especially in the popular conception. It's difficult to differentiate [[lb:Fey]] from Elves, for example.
  
 And as is often the case with all-creatures: they end up rendering other fantasy races redundant or unnecessary. And as is often the case with all-creatures: they end up rendering other fantasy races redundant or unnecessary.
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 I actually wouldn't place orcs into this category because what they //are// is pretty clearly defined. I do think that [[lb:wesnoth]] partially treats them like an all-creature, but they aren't one as a whole. I actually wouldn't place orcs into this category because what they //are// is pretty clearly defined. I do think that [[lb:wesnoth]] partially treats them like an all-creature, but they aren't one as a whole.
  
-That said, orcs //do// basically replace any “savage tribal peoples” that exist, so you could look at it from that point of view.\\+<div passage> 
 +That said, orcs //do// basically replace any “savage tribal peoples” that exist, so you could look at it from that point of view. 
 But orcs also don't experience speciation in the same way that most all-creatures do. But orcs also don't experience speciation in the same way that most all-creatures do.
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 ==== Vampires ==== ==== Vampires ====
-Vampires are another one of the obvious all-creatures, evidenced mostly by //[[lb:wod|Vampire: the Masquerade]]// and //[[lb:cod|Vampire: the Requiem]]//.\\ +<div passage> 
-However, this all-creature status goes back to Dracula. Dracula was //also// a werewolf, because he could control wolves and turn into one.\\+Vampires are another one of the obvious all-creatures, evidenced mostly by //[[lb:wod|Vampire: the Masquerade]]// and //[[lb:cod|Vampire: the Requiem]]//. 
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 +However, this all-creature status goes back to Dracula. Dracula was //also// a werewolf, because he could control wolves and turn into one. 
 The Gangrel clan from Masquerade shows this vampire/werewolf overlap quite clearly, since they can explicitly turn into wolves. This also places Werewolves from //[[lb:wod|Werewolf: the Apocalypse]]// into an awkward position, since they aren't the only werewolves in the setting. The Gangrel clan from Masquerade shows this vampire/werewolf overlap quite clearly, since they can explicitly turn into wolves. This also places Werewolves from //[[lb:wod|Werewolf: the Apocalypse]]// into an awkward position, since they aren't the only werewolves in the setting.
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 I'd also argue that vampires who are a distinct race – that is, they aren't a supernatural disease but reproduce like normal – are elves, which means that you could theoretically have every creature that overlaps with werewolves, vampires and elves all be...elves. Terrifying, I know. I'd also argue that vampires who are a distinct race – that is, they aren't a supernatural disease but reproduce like normal – are elves, which means that you could theoretically have every creature that overlaps with werewolves, vampires and elves all be...elves. Terrifying, I know.
 ==== Werewolves ==== ==== Werewolves ====
-I think werewolves are an example of a theoretical all-creature – in that you could have //every// wolf-like creature in folklore/mythology turn into a werewolf, and then undergo speciation – but, for some reason...this just doesn't happen? I think this is because the modern conception is very rigid in what it is: a guy who can turn into a big humanoid wolf.\\+<div passage> 
 +I think werewolves are an example of a theoretical all-creature – in that you could have //every// wolf-like creature in folklore/mythology turn into a werewolf, and then undergo speciation – but, for some reason...this just doesn't happen? I think this is because the modern conception is very rigid in what it is: a guy who can turn into a big humanoid wolf. 
 You know it's bad when werewolves are absorbed into vampires. You know it's bad when werewolves are absorbed into vampires.
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 That said, a more generic shape-shifter could probably absorb werewolves and [[lb:kitsune]] at once. That said, a more generic shape-shifter could probably absorb werewolves and [[lb:kitsune]] at once.
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