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lb:androids [2026-01-28 18:15:39] – [A.I.C.O. Incarnation] ninjasrlb:androids [2026-01-28 18:28:30] (current) ninjasr
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 ====== Androids ====== ====== Androids ======
-In the primary world, android’ refers to a robot which is human-like in appearance. Humanoid at minimum and indistinguishable from humans at the other extreme.+In the primary world, <span denote>android</span> refers to a robot which is human-like in appearance. Humanoid at minimum and indistinguishable from humans at the other extreme.
  
 Androids appear a lot in fiction...so, yeah. Androids appear a lot in fiction...so, yeah.
 ===== Description & Notes ===== ===== Description & Notes =====
 ==== Origin ==== ==== Origin ====
-The play [[lb:rur|R.U.R.]] was the source of the word robot’ and it's also a very unusual depiction of robots/androids by modern standards (fully biological). But we'll get into that later. R.U.R. could be seen as the place where modern androids actually began as a trope. The other major influence would be I, Robot, the book by Isaac Asimov.\\+The play [[lb:rur|R.U.R.]] was the source of the word <span denote>robot</span> and it's also a very unusual depiction of robots/androids by modern standards (fully biological). But we'll get into that later. <cite>R.U.R.</cite> could be seen as the place where modern androids actually began as a trope. The other major influence would be <cite>I, Robot</cite>, the book by Isaac Asimov.\\
 Asimov made them fully mechanical; created the Three Laws of Robotics (which are bad); and established how robots are supposed to act. Asimov made them fully mechanical; created the Three Laws of Robotics (which are bad); and established how robots are supposed to act.
 ==== General Depiction ==== ==== General Depiction ====
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 The clones in Star Wars are probably the most android-like depiction. At least as far as I know. The clones in Star Wars are probably the most android-like depiction. At least as far as I know.
 ==== Golem ==== ==== Golem ====
-[[lb:Golem]] is a folkloric creature possibly from Jewish folklore, though I've only heard about the Prague golem...and he's basically a pre-modern android.+[[lb:Golem]] is a folkloric creature possibly from [[lb:judaism|Jewish]] folklore, though I've only heard about the Prague golem...and he's basically a pre-modern android.
 ===== Media Depictions ===== ===== Media Depictions =====
 ==== A.I. ==== ==== A.I. ====
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 It's more accurate to say that they're clones who are //treated// as androids. It's more accurate to say that they're clones who are //treated// as androids.
 ==== Deca-Dence ==== ==== Deca-Dence ====
-This is an ambiguous and unusual case. But, basically <wrap spoiler>most of humanity is extinct and the remnants of humanity are part of an action game. Robots are the dominant ‘species’ and they spend all their time engaging in decadent activities. When they play the action game, they enter avatars which are humanoid in shape and could be argued to be androids</wrap>.+This is an ambiguous and unusual case. But, basically <mark spoiler>most of humanity is extinct and the remnants of humanity are part of an action game. Robots are the dominant ‘species’ and they spend all their time engaging in decadent activities. When they play the action game, they enter avatars which are humanoid in shape and could be argued to be androids</mark>.
 ==== Detroit: Become Human ==== ==== Detroit: Become Human ====
 The androids depicted here are an interesting case because: The androids depicted here are an interesting case because:
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 They are also obviously self-aware. Oh, and they are all white. They are also obviously self-aware. Oh, and they are all white.
  
-The bigger question is why not all the androids are attractive, because that's obviously how it would turn out in real life. Also, military androids shouldn't look human at all, but still be humanoid.+The greater and far more important question is why the androids aren't all attractive, because that's obviously how it would turn out in real life. Also, military androids shouldn't look human at all, but still be humanoid.
 ==== Ghost in the Shell ==== ==== Ghost in the Shell ====
-Androids in [[lb:gits]] are 9 times out of 10 really dumb and not self-aware at all. There's a moment in S.A.C. where a guy is straight-up //dead// and his two android sex bots are just //vibing// next to his corpse...so they're obviously not very intelligent...usually.+Androids in [[lb:gits]] are 9 times out of 10 really dumb and not self-aware at all. There's a moment in <cite>[[gits#standalonecomplex|S.A.C.]]</cite> where a guy is straight-up //dead// and his two android sex bots are just //vibing// next to his corpse...so they're obviously not very intelligent...usually.
  
-There are exceptions: in the manga, an android company did manage to produce very life-like androids because they engaged in ghost-dubbing...which is when you copy the ghost’ (the soul) of a person and then put it into something. Ghost dubbing's disadvantage is that the androids which are made from dubbing are unstable (they only get an inferior copy) and, oh yeah, the person who got scanned will literally //die//. Which I actually take a little issue with, but I digress.\\ +There are exceptions: in the manga, an android company did manage to produce very life-like androids because they engaged in ghost-dubbing...which is when you copy the <span denote>ghost</span> (the soul) of a person and then put it into something. Ghost dubbings disadvantage is that the androids which are made from dubbing are unstable (they only get an inferior copy) and, oh yeah, the person who got scanned will literally //die//. Which I actually take a little issue with, but I digress.\\ 
-S.A.C. also includes a case of ghost dubbing, where a man is continuously dubbed over and over again. I don't remember the exact details, but it's something like: he entered a coma that he would not exit...so he was ghost dubbed and the ghost was plopped into an android. Whenever an android reaches the end of its lifespan, it gets dubbed into a new android.\\+<cite>S.A.C.</cite> also includes a case of ghost dubbing, where a man is continuously dubbed over and over again. I don't remember the exact details, but it's something like: he entered a coma that he would not exit...so he was ghost dubbed and the ghost was plopped into an android. Whenever an android reaches the end of its lifespan, it gets dubbed into a new android.\\
 This is a death-spiral though, because each copy is inferior to the previous version...so, at some point...it's just //poof// and he's just a regular android. This is a death-spiral though, because each copy is inferior to the previous version...so, at some point...it's just //poof// and he's just a regular android.
  
-The other exception is from Episode 3 of S.A.C. which is one of the earliest examples of an android //possibly// gaining self-awareness. Read about that on the page about the [[lb:Ghost in the Shell]] theme.+The other exception is from Episode 3 of <cite>S.A.C.</cite> which is one of the earliest examples of an android //possibly// gaining self-awareness. Read about that on the page about the [[lb:Ghost in the Shell]] theme article.
  
-Though most androids in Ghost in the Shell are decidedly //dumb//. Like, for reference: the Tachikomas (which are autonomous tanks) are more intelligent than most of the androids depicted.+Though most androids in <cite>Ghost in the Shell</cite> are decidedly //dumb//. Like, for reference: the Tachikomas (which are autonomous tanks) are more intelligent than most of the androids depicted.
  
-Also, androids bleed and they bleed white blood. One character even remarks I can smell her white blood” though, ironically, this was in reference to Kusanagi.+Also, androids bleed and they bleed white blood. One character even remarks <q :en>I can smell her white blood</q> though, ironically, this was in reference to Kusanagi.
 ==== Girls’ Frontline ==== ==== Girls’ Frontline ====
 Androids in [[lb:gfl]] are called dolls and they are overwhelmingly feminine. Most of them are civilian-level while a small subset are military androids. Androids in [[lb:gfl]] are called dolls and they are overwhelmingly feminine. Most of them are civilian-level while a small subset are military androids.
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 Yes, I'm arguing that the clones here are androids. Yes, I'm arguing that the clones here are androids.
  
-Though I should repeat a disclaimer here from the main page: I consider the old Expanded Universe to be canon. So that's what I'm going off of. The Clone Wars cartoon and anything made by Disney is //not// canon.+Though I should repeat a disclaimer here from the main page: I consider the old Expanded Universe to be canon. So that's what I'm going off of. <cite>The Clone Wars</cite> cartoon and anything made by Disney is //not// canon.
  
 In real Star Wars canon, the connection between clones and androids is made very much explicit. They do not possess free will in any meaningful sense: they follow orders absolutely...just that they can interpret them creatively. In real Star Wars canon, the connection between clones and androids is made very much explicit. They do not possess free will in any meaningful sense: they follow orders absolutely...just that they can interpret them creatively.
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