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 ====== Cliché ======
-The term is thrown around a lot, so I'm going to define it clearly:
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-A cliché is an oft-repeated, poorly implemented [[playground:trope]].
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+The term is thrown around a lot, so I'm going to define it clearly:
+<div callout>A cliché is an oft-repeated, poorly implemented [[lb:trope]].</div>
 ===== Elaboration =====
-So to elaborate on that definition...a trope becomes a cliché if it's frequently repeated and poorly implemented. This is an //and// situation and not an //or// situation.\\
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-Why is it important that both of these conditions be satisfied? Well, because what a trope //is// is any re-occurring element in stories. This includes everything from ‘grizzled veteran with a beard’ to ‘woman’...or even ‘chair’. Notice that the presence of a woman doesn't make a story automatically bad. Well...I guess that's debatable.\\
+So to elaborate on that definition...a trope becomes a cliché if it's frequently repeated and poorly implemented. This is an //and// situation and not an //or// situation.
-Anyway...a cliché is what happens when a writer copies a trope from somewhere else, but doesn't consider the context within which that trope actually existed.
+Why is it important that both of these conditions be satisfied? Well, because what a trope //is// is any re-occurring element in stories. This includes everything from ‘grizzled veteran with a beard’ to ‘woman’...or even ‘chair’. Notice that the presence of a woman doesn't make a story automatically bad. Well...I guess that's debatable.
+//**Anyway**//...a cliché is what happens when a writer copies a trope from somewhere else, but doesn't consider the context within which that trope actually existed.
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+==== Themes ====
+I realized recently that the [[lb:japanese kumbaya]] cliché is //also a theme// and this presents a slight problem with definitions. Though it's a simple thing to solve.
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+I won't do it yet, but I'll change the meaning of cliché slightly to refer to themes, writing conventions and tropes. By that I mean I'll re-write the article slightly.
+But the connective tissue is that a cliché is something that is oft-repeated and poorly implemented.
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+===== Cliches =====
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+  * [[lb:japanese kumbaya]]
+  * [[lb:Japanese Thematic Explanation]]
+  * [[lb:silent non-silent protagonist]]
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