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lb:japanese.kumbaya [2025-09-07 18:38:26] – [What happens next?] ninjasrlb:japanese.kumbaya [2026-05-09 10:02:45] (current) – [Japanese Kumbaya] ninjasr
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 ====== Japanese Kumbaya ====== ====== Japanese Kumbaya ======
-This is a [[lb:cliché]] in Japanese fiction that is irritatingly common.\\ +<div subtitle>
-It is based on the idea that war is fundamentally bad and, if we all just put aside our hatred for each-other, we can live in eternal peace and harmony.\\+
 {{tag>story_theory}} {{tag>story_theory}}
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 +<div passage>
 +This is a [[lb:cliché]] in Japanese fiction that is irritatingly common.
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 +It is based on the idea that war is fundamentally bad and, if we all just put aside our hatred for each-other, we can live in eternal peace and harmony.
 +</div>
 ===== Cliché Critique ===== ===== Cliché Critique =====
 Now, there are various reasons why this is irritating, though this being a //cliché// and not a //trope// should indicate that it's generally poorly implemented. Now, there are various reasons why this is irritating, though this being a //cliché// and not a //trope// should indicate that it's generally poorly implemented.
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 However, I think it can go into a few directions: However, I think it can go into a few directions:
-  * The plot will revolve around someone attempting to go back to the state of war.((:fn:>I believe this is the case in //Allison//.]]+  * The plot will revolve around someone attempting to go back to the state of war.((:fn:>I believe this is the case in //Allison//.))
   * The world just straight-up devolves back into war.   * The world just straight-up devolves back into war.
   * The story starts meandering.   * The story starts meandering.
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 This perspective – that we're all basically the same and should just set our petty differences aside – make the most sense if everyone is //already// on the same page...like in //Japan// itself. This perspective – that we're all basically the same and should just set our petty differences aside – make the most sense if everyone is //already// on the same page...like in //Japan// itself.
 ===== Media Examples ===== ===== Media Examples =====
 +<div subtitle>
 +<div callout caution>This section has unmarked spoilers!</div>
 +</div>
 ==== Allison ==== ==== Allison ====
 [[lb:allison]] is one of the extremely naïve examples of this cliché as it literally assumes that all conflict boils down to ideology/hatred.\\ [[lb:allison]] is one of the extremely naïve examples of this cliché as it literally assumes that all conflict boils down to ideology/hatred.\\
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 [[lb:codegeass]] is a...I don't know whether interesting or not example.\\ [[lb:codegeass]] is a...I don't know whether interesting or not example.\\
 Code Geass understands that ‘hatred’ isn't all that drives warfare...but it clearly assumes that hatred plays a big part.\\ Code Geass understands that ‘hatred’ isn't all that drives warfare...but it clearly assumes that hatred plays a big part.\\
-The <wrap spoiler>Zero Requiem plan</wrap> is, in fact, directly dependent on this assumption to work. Though it's kinda quirky because of //how// it's all set up...yeah, it's just weird. Like all of Code Geass I guess. I'd need more time to think about it.+The <mark spoiler>Zero Requiem plan</mark> is, in fact, directly dependent on this assumption to work. Though it's kinda quirky because of //how// it's all set up...yeah, it's just weird. Like all of Code Geass I guess. I'd need more time to think about it.
 ==== Cross Ange ==== ==== Cross Ange ====
 I added [[lb:croan]] to this list at some point, but forgot why. I think it's because the assumption is //there// though it doesn't quite go into this cliché's territory as far as I remember. I added [[lb:croan]] to this list at some point, but forgot why. I think it's because the assumption is //there// though it doesn't quite go into this cliché's territory as far as I remember.
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