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 ====== Tolkien's Legendarium ======
-**Tolkien's Legendarium** is a catch-all term to refer to the stories by [[lb:tolkien]] which take place in Arda. The main works that are comprised within the Legendarium include //**Lord of the Rings**//, //**The Hobbit**// and //**The Silmarillion**//.
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+**Tolkien’s Legendarium** is a catch-all term to refer to the stories by [[lb:tolkien]] which take place in Arda. The main works that are comprised within the Legendarium include //**Lord of the Rings**//, //**The Hobbit**// and //**The Silmarillion**//.
-Currently...yeah, not much is going to be here. Though you may see stuff relevant to [[lb:Tengwar]] at some point.
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-[[lb:tl:quenya]]
+[[lb:tl:tengwar]]\\
+[[lb:tl:sindarin]] • [[lb:tl:quenya]]
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 The depiction of the elves is also pretty awful and...I'm not a fan of how Smaug looks. While he's too big in the Peter Jackson films...yeah, more dragon-like.
 === The Lord of The Rings (Animated) ===
-This film is not good, I'll say so bluntly. In fact, it raises a lot of questions...regarding //how// Peter Jackson created a comparatively faithful film.
+This film is not good, I'll say so bluntly. In fact, it raises a lot of questions...regarding //how// Peter Jackson created a comparatively faithful film trilogy.
 It has a similar issue to the animated Hobbit, in that it rips a lot of lines straight from the book...without accounting for all the lost context. Thus leading to some awkwardness.
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 I think that the animated Hobbit is better than this, which is an achievement on its own.
+The film also ends abruptly. Like, very abruptly. This is //probably// because it was planned to be a part 1 of 2...but, like, none of the Peter Jackson films end the same way.
 === Return of the King (animated) ===
 Between this and the previous film...this one is unquestionably better.\\
-Not only is the quality more consistent (in animation/artwork and music), but it's generally better. That isn't to say this is //good//. In fact, I'd say this film is also bad as a film and an animation.
+Not only is the quality more consistent (in animation/artwork and music), but it's generally better. That isn't to say this is //good//. In fact, I'd say this film is also bad as a film and an adaptation.
 Mispronunciations are present as well, which makes it unexpectedly consistent with the previous films. It's also, bizarrely, presented as a sequel to //The Hobbit// – though this was done due to licensing issues.
-The highlights of this film include Sam being a badass and //Where There's a Whip (There's a Way)//. The former is manifested as Sam imagining himself as turning Gorgoroth into a giant garden and convincing an army of orcs to attack an army of men working for Sauron. The latter is just a good song: unusually thematically appropriate as well.
+The highlights of this film include Sam being a badass and //[[lb:Where There's a Whip (There's a Way)]]//. The former is manifested as Sam imagining himself as turning Gorgoroth into a giant garden and convincing an army of orcs to attack an army of men working for Sauron. The latter is just a good song: unusually thematically appropriate as well.
 Would I recommend watching it? Probably not.
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 Personally, I've decided to start treating Tolkien's world //as// a mythology (or like a Japanese franchise). That means that everything and nothing is canon at the same time.
-I think it //would// be possible to construct an internally consistent canon (and for fanfiction reasons, I'm thinking of doing exactly that) but there isn't really a need to. And, let's be honest, at that point it isn't //Tolkien's// Legendarium anymore.
+I think it //would// be possible to construct an internally consistent canon (and for fanfiction reasons, I'm thinking of doing exactly that) but there isn't really a need to. And, let's be honest, at that point it isn't //Tolkien’s// Legendarium anymore.
+==== Do Balrogs have wings? ====
+I won't really comment on this too much since it's been done to death...but I find it interesting that nobody seems to consider the following possibility: //The Balrogs have wings but can’t fly.//
+I noticed that most arguments are implicitly focused on whether or not Balrogs can fly...when, to me, it seems most obvious that the Balrogs //do// have wings...but that //doesn't// mean they can fly. In fact, I think they can’t fly.
+Why would a creature have wings if they can’t fly? See any number of flightless birds for your answer.
+==== Do elves need to eat? ====
+I'm writing this quickly since it came to mind. I think that the consensus is that elves //don't need to eat// and won't die of starvation, but I'll suggest something else.
+The reason I'm not satisfied with that is that it makes the act of eating kinda pointless and, thus, it makes the most sense to just not eat at all. So why would lembas exist?
+Instead, I propose that elves //do need to eat// but that they won't die of starvation. So they'll experience the effects (and associated pain), but won't die.\\
+I think this lines up with what we actually see regarding Maedhros for example, who begs to be killed after hanging on a cliff for a few decades (or centuries). Unless he's suffering from boredom, I think it makes a lot of sense to suggest he's been starving.
 ==== Do the elves of Valinor know what's happening? ====
 This is a question I'm temporarily raising after having read something interesting in //The Silmarillion//. I'll be sure to interrogate it properly later, however. It's important due to something I'm planning to publish later.
 When Eärendil and Elwing reach Valinor, Eärendil wanders off alone to find someone to plead his case to((:fn:>As a side note, I do find it a little funny that Eärendil has to wander the empty streets because he happened to reach Valinor while they were having a festival.)) Elwing waits around, but then gets lonely. So she starts wandering around until she meets some Teleri, who are surprised to see her.\\
-She and they talk, during which she explains many of the things that happened in Middle-Earth – and it's here where my interest was piqued – they were “filled with pity and wonder” – which implies they didn't know what was going on.
+She and they talk, during which she explains many of the things that happened in Middle-Earth – and it's here where my interest was piqued – they were <q>“filled with pity and wonder”</q> – which implies they didn't know what was going on.
 Whether the elves of Valinor know about the events in Middle-Earth or not makes a big difference, though I won't elaborate for a while.
+==== On Neo-Elvish ====
+Read the [[lb:opinion:on neo-elvish|article]] if it exists yet.
 ===== Trivilinks =====
   * [[https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Main_Page|Tolkien Gateway]]
     * Yup, pretty good wiki for this stuff. Though it has changed a bit over time.
+  * [[https://eldamo.org/|Eldamo]]
+    * The **El**vish **Da**ta **Mo**del is probably the best and most up-to-date resource for Tolkien's languages.
+  * YouTube & Videos
+    * [[you>Cr_rb_pitHk|An Exhaustive History of Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings]] by Folding Ideas – I think it's a good video, though a bit pretentious and leaning too much on Post-Modernism.
+  * Other
+    * [[https://lotrscrapbook.bookloaf.net/other/recipes.html|Middle-earth Recipes]] – Discovered recently.
   * Here I'll list a few articles which I'll work on //at some point//. This is mostly for me so I don't forget. Yes, these are mostly languages
-    * [[lb:tl:sindarin]]
     * [[lb:tl:Adûnaic]]
     * [[lb:tl:avarin]]
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     * [[lb:tl:westron]]
     * [[lb:tl:rohan (language)]]
+  * The banner images feature the Tengwar Elfica and Annatar typefaces, which I downloaded from the [[https://glaemscrafu.jrrvf.com/|Glǽmscrafu]] Github for their transcriber.
+  * I'll gradually add more links here as time goes on.