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lb:punchy [2026-01-17 13:54:20] – ↷ Page moved and renamed from playground:opinion:punchy.sango.response to lb:punchy ninjasrlb:punchy [2026-01-18 10:14:40] (current) – [Aside - Femininity, horror and agency] ninjasr
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 All the additional themes that come along with ‘being a woman’ are more of a pleasant side-effect. Though that doesn't mean I think that all horror games with a female protagonist necessarily add female-centric themes //after the fact//. All the additional themes that come along with ‘being a woman’ are more of a pleasant side-effect. Though that doesn't mean I think that all horror games with a female protagonist necessarily add female-centric themes //after the fact//.
  
-I'll also point out the difference between male and female protagonists in horror games. Male protagonists tend to be central to more action-oriented horror games (with exceptions like <cite>Silent Hill 2</cite> and <cite>Amnesia</cite>), while female protagonists are central to horror games where you don't fight back as often (generally).\\ +I'll also point out the difference between male and female protagonists in horror games. Male protagonists tend to be central to more action-oriented horror games (with exceptions like <cite>[[lb:silent hill|Silent Hill 2]]</cite> and <cite>Amnesia</cite>), while female protagonists are central to horror games where you don't fight back as often (generally).\\ 
-Compare Ruka Minazuki (<cite>Fatal Frame</cite>) to Chris Redfield. Hell, even within the first <cite>Resident Evil</cite> you can see this difference between Chris and Jill: Chris is less fazed by what he sees and more action-oriented, while Jill tends to be fearful and more cautious.+Compare Ruka Minazuki (<cite>Fatal Frame</cite>) to Chris Redfield. Hell, even within the first <cite>[[lb:Resident Evil]]</cite> you can see this difference between Chris and Jill: Chris is less fazed by what he sees and more action-oriented, while Jill tends to be fearful and more cautious.
 === Kurumi - The Autism === === Kurumi - The Autism ===
 My original plan when writing this article was just to respond to the Sango stuff, but now I'm also gonna include the Kurumi stuff. The reason being that I find Punchy's perspective here a bit braindead. My original plan when writing this article was just to respond to the Sango stuff, but now I'm also gonna include the Kurumi stuff. The reason being that I find Punchy's perspective here a bit braindead.
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 Now, I'm particularly invested here because...I've been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome,((:fn:>For the sake of being completely honest, I'm actually personally doubting whether I have it or not, but experts generally agree that I have Asperger's. My doubts are mostly focused on whether I have Asperger's specifically or something else related to autism. Regardless, as someone diagnosed with it, I ended up incidentally learning a lot of information on the side.)) which is at the very top of Autism Spectrum Disorder. Wait ‘spectrum’? Yes, we'll get to that.\\ Now, I'm particularly invested here because...I've been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome,((:fn:>For the sake of being completely honest, I'm actually personally doubting whether I have it or not, but experts generally agree that I have Asperger's. My doubts are mostly focused on whether I have Asperger's specifically or something else related to autism. Regardless, as someone diagnosed with it, I ended up incidentally learning a lot of information on the side.)) which is at the very top of Autism Spectrum Disorder. Wait ‘spectrum’? Yes, we'll get to that.\\
-And it became clear to me that Punchy knows less about Autism than I do...in fact, I started to suspect that Punchy //isn't// autistic.((:fn:>I think this because from what I've seen of him...well, in comparison to me, he appears higher-functioning. He //could// be just good at masking, though that's not the impression I get. I don't know him personally and I haven't observed that much of him, which is why I'm only suspicious.\\  It should be noted (generally) that people who self-diagnose (I'm not saying he did though) tend to be wrong and, further, the standards for diagnosis have been declining, meaning it's less and less likely as time goes on to fully trust a diagnosis. But that's a whole other can of worms I'm not gonna get into.)) This is only a suspicion I have, so I don't put much weight on it and you probably shouldn't either.+And it became clear to me that Punchy knows less about Autism than I do...in fact, I started to suspect that Punchy //isn't// autistic.((:fn:>I think this because from what I've seen of him...well, in comparison to me, he appears higher-functioning. He //could// just be good at masking, though that's not the impression I get. I don't know him personally and I haven't observed that much of him, which is why I'm only suspicious.\\  It should be noted (generally) that people who self-diagnose (I'm not saying he did though) tend to be wrong and, further, the standards for diagnosis have been declining, meaning diagnoses are getting gradually less trustworthy. But that's a whole other can of worms I'm not gonna get into.)) This is only a suspicion I have, so I don't put much weight on it and you probably shouldn't either.
  
 So first I'll point out that it's very very important to always clearly state that Autism is a //spectrum// and not just a single disorder. And two people taken from either end of the spectrum look very very different from each-other.\\ So first I'll point out that it's very very important to always clearly state that Autism is a //spectrum// and not just a single disorder. And two people taken from either end of the spectrum look very very different from each-other.\\
 You can broadly split the spectrum into two ‘groups’: **low-functioning** and **high-functioning**.\\ You can broadly split the spectrum into two ‘groups’: **low-functioning** and **high-functioning**.\\
 The difference between the two is that a high-functioning autist can generally function on their own and within society without difficulty (relatively-speaking). A low-functioning autist typically has serious issues with functioning on their own and within society, which means they are dependent on external help.\\ The difference between the two is that a high-functioning autist can generally function on their own and within society without difficulty (relatively-speaking). A low-functioning autist typically has serious issues with functioning on their own and within society, which means they are dependent on external help.\\
-High-functioning autists tend to come off as normal people with quirks((:fn:>This is also how some within [[lb:socjus]] tend to character autists: just ‘quirky’.)) or, at worst, they tend to be unintentionally rude as a result of them not fully understanding social cues.\\+High-functioning autists tend to come off as normal people with quirks((:fn:>This is also how some within [[lb:socjus]] tend to characterize autists: just ‘quirky’.)) or, at worst, they tend to be unintentionally rude as a result of them not fully understanding social cues.\\
 Low-functioning autists, however, have much more serious issues. Some of them can’t speak. Some can’t react to anything around them. Some can only really screech or scream. Some cannot comprehend social rules at all. Some don't realize that women aren't, in fact, objects. Some have trouble differentiating their imagination from reality. Low-functioning autists, however, have much more serious issues. Some of them can’t speak. Some can’t react to anything around them. Some can only really screech or scream. Some cannot comprehend social rules at all. Some don't realize that women aren't, in fact, objects. Some have trouble differentiating their imagination from reality.
  
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 When you consider the lower end of the spectrum, it really shouldn't be surprising that there are parents who search for a ‘cure’ even if it doesn't exist. A cure would legitimately improve the lives of the people with autism and the people around them. Even something that doesn't make them fully ‘normal’ and just moves them to the higher end of the spectrum would be useful.\\ When you consider the lower end of the spectrum, it really shouldn't be surprising that there are parents who search for a ‘cure’ even if it doesn't exist. A cure would legitimately improve the lives of the people with autism and the people around them. Even something that doesn't make them fully ‘normal’ and just moves them to the higher end of the spectrum would be useful.\\
-Now, whether a cure is possible or not is another thing entirely. But I'm generally opposed to the characterization of searching for a cure as purely negative. Punchy seems to generally characterize cures in the way that [[lb:socjus]] was (as a tool to harm/eliminate autists). And while that (the tool to harm/eliminte autists) is bad, it's also bad to characterize //all of it as purely evil//.+Now, whether a cure is possible or not is another thing entirely. But I'm generally opposed to the characterization of searching for a cure as purely negative. Punchy seems to generally characterize cures in the way that [[lb:socjus]] does (as a tool to harm/eliminate autists). And while that (the tool to harm/eliminte autists) is bad, it's also bad to characterize //all of it as purely evil//.
  
 Punchy being (almost certainly) a high-functioning autist means that he's a little blind to the life of a low-functioning autist, which is painfully obvious from his summary of the game. Punchy being (almost certainly) a high-functioning autist means that he's a little blind to the life of a low-functioning autist, which is painfully obvious from his summary of the game.
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   * She regularly interacts with supernatural entities and **appears completely unfazed by it**.   * She regularly interacts with supernatural entities and **appears completely unfazed by it**.
   * She typically speaks in a childish and sing-song manner.   * She typically speaks in a childish and sing-song manner.
-  * She enthusiastically and unhesitatingly volunteers personal information to a stranger (granted, a doctor) she had never me before when he asks her for it.+  * She enthusiastically and unhesitatingly volunteers personal information to a stranger (granted, a doctor) she had never met before when he asks her for it.
   * She holds a conversation with a talking mailbox and doesn't think this is strange in the slightest.   * She holds a conversation with a talking mailbox and doesn't think this is strange in the slightest.
 The last one is the proverbial smoking gun, as that indicates an inability to understand reality...which is probably the biggest piece of evidence to suggest that she's low-functioning.\\ The last one is the proverbial smoking gun, as that indicates an inability to understand reality...which is probably the biggest piece of evidence to suggest that she's low-functioning.\\
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 I think that Japan is actually among the countries that is nicest to high-functioning autists. This is due to what I stated before: they don't really care how weird or eccentric you are as long as you perform your role, follow the rules and don't bother others.\\ I think that Japan is actually among the countries that is nicest to high-functioning autists. This is due to what I stated before: they don't really care how weird or eccentric you are as long as you perform your role, follow the rules and don't bother others.\\
-Thus a high-functioning autist would probably perceive Japan as a bit of a paradise: there are **clear** rules that apply clearly in situations and which are almost religiously enforced by the entire population...who is fine with you occasionally breaking a rule as long as you show humility and correct your behavior from then on. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of high-functioning autists end up going completely undiagnosed in Japanese society because...it's just kinda normal.+Thus a high-functioning autist would probably perceive Japan as a bit of a paradise: there are **clear** rules that apply clearly in situations and which are almost religiously enforced by the entire population...which is fine with you occasionally breaking a rule as long as you show humility and correct your behavior from then on. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of high-functioning autists end up going completely undiagnosed in Japanese society because...it's just kinda normal.
  
 But now that I've recapped that, you may have noticed the major issue with low-functioning autists: they kinda break the only requirements needed to fit in. A low-functioning autist has trouble with fulfilling their role in society, with following the rules (which they may have trouble comprehending no matter how often you remind them) and they end up bothering others with their actions (or inactions, as they can be perceived as a social burden too). But now that I've recapped that, you may have noticed the major issue with low-functioning autists: they kinda break the only requirements needed to fit in. A low-functioning autist has trouble with fulfilling their role in society, with following the rules (which they may have trouble comprehending no matter how often you remind them) and they end up bothering others with their actions (or inactions, as they can be perceived as a social burden too).
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 Punchy doesn't think there's anything wrong with Kurumi, despite evidence to suggest she has trouble with differentiating reality from fiction (in the game's case, the difference between the supernatural and the natural). Plus her naïveté and childlike approach to life can put her in danger. Kurumi //does// have problems which //do// require fixing.\\ Punchy doesn't think there's anything wrong with Kurumi, despite evidence to suggest she has trouble with differentiating reality from fiction (in the game's case, the difference between the supernatural and the natural). Plus her naïveté and childlike approach to life can put her in danger. Kurumi //does// have problems which //do// require fixing.\\
 From the point of view of her parents...there really //is// a problem here that they want to desperately fix. Not because they're selfish...but because they //don't want her daughter to have issues later in life//.\\ From the point of view of her parents...there really //is// a problem here that they want to desperately fix. Not because they're selfish...but because they //don't want her daughter to have issues later in life//.\\
-How does that mesh with them approaching a doctor with a clearly dangerous treatment method that only seems to harm her? Well, from their point-of-view, it could be perceived as a very unfortunate but necessary path forward. I mean, there //are// real medical treatments that are painful, cause harm but, nevertheless, can actually results in ‘cures’: chemotherapy, radiation therapy (for cancer) and amputations.\\+How does that mesh with them approaching a doctor with a clearly dangerous treatment method that only seems to harm her? Well, from their point-of-view, it could be perceived as a very unfortunate but necessary path forward. I mean, there //are// real medical treatments that are painful, cause harm but, nevertheless, can actually result in ‘cures’: chemotherapy, radiation therapy (for cancer) and amputations.\\
 They were obviously //wrong// (because Kurumi //dies//) but I don't think it's fair to characterize them as purely selfish...and Kurumi as entirely normal.\\ They were obviously //wrong// (because Kurumi //dies//) but I don't think it's fair to characterize them as purely selfish...and Kurumi as entirely normal.\\
 It would have been better to deal with Kurumi's issues via teaching and the like...rather than, y'know, chemicals and who knows what. It would have been better to deal with Kurumi's issues via teaching and the like...rather than, y'know, chemicals and who knows what.
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