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 Chicago Press, 1983).’ according to their footnote.)) Chicago Press, 1983).’ according to their footnote.))
  
-**Social Justice**, or SocJus, is a collection of post-modernist ideologies and, like post-modernism, they call all be comfortably described as evil.+**Social Justice**, or SocJus, is a collection of post-modernist ideologies and, like post-modernism, they call all comfortably be described as evil.
  
 Now that I've scared away the casuals by explicitly calling it evil, let me explain what the purpose of this article is...//clarity//.\\ Now that I've scared away the casuals by explicitly calling it evil, let me explain what the purpose of this article is...//clarity//.\\
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 Feminist Theory is cooperating with Critical Race Theory despite CRT including black men among their oppressed. To avoid this blatant contradiction, Feminist Theory (temporarily) adjusts its own position of seeing //all// men as the oppressors to singling out //white// men as the oppressors.\\ Feminist Theory is cooperating with Critical Race Theory despite CRT including black men among their oppressed. To avoid this blatant contradiction, Feminist Theory (temporarily) adjusts its own position of seeing //all// men as the oppressors to singling out //white// men as the oppressors.\\
-This position is then maintained and enforced even after you point out the fact that, per capita, black men are more abusive towards men than white men are (or really, any other race is). Or that black men are //especially// abusive towards white women.\\+This position is then maintained and enforced even after you point out the fact that, per capita, black men are more abusive towards women than white men are (or really, any other race is). Or that black men are //especially// abusive towards white women.\\
 This is where it's important to note that Feminist Theory //doesn't care// about these facts because, at the moment, they are allied with CRT: you can’t just say that your ally is bad, as that's besides the point of the (temporary) alliance. If CRT downplays, denies and excuses this behavior; Feminist Theory will as well. This is where it's important to note that Feminist Theory //doesn't care// about these facts because, at the moment, they are allied with CRT: you can’t just say that your ally is bad, as that's besides the point of the (temporary) alliance. If CRT downplays, denies and excuses this behavior; Feminist Theory will as well.
  
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   * Critical Race Theory believes that Cleopatra was black despite overwhelming evidence making it clear she was Greek.((:fn:>There's even some evidence, as I've heard it, that she may have had //light hair//. Though that's speculation based on the fact she dyed her hair.)) And she probably had light skin.   * Critical Race Theory believes that Cleopatra was black despite overwhelming evidence making it clear she was Greek.((:fn:>There's even some evidence, as I've heard it, that she may have had //light hair//. Though that's speculation based on the fact she dyed her hair.)) And she probably had light skin.
   * CRT also doesn't care that the Arab Slave Trade was much larger and far more brutal than the Atlantic Slave Trade.   * CRT also doesn't care that the Arab Slave Trade was much larger and far more brutal than the Atlantic Slave Trade.
-  * Feminist Theory believes that women are actively oppressed despite have more freedom now than at any other point in history.+  * Feminist Theory believes that women are actively oppressed despite having more freedom now than at any other point in history.
   * Feminist Theory also doesn't care that life honestly wasn't that bad for women thruout history. In fact, you can point to several moments where life was very pleasant.   * Feminist Theory also doesn't care that life honestly wasn't that bad for women thruout history. In fact, you can point to several moments where life was very pleasant.
   * Queer Theory believes that Gender Dysphoria isn't a mental illness.   * Queer Theory believes that Gender Dysphoria isn't a mental illness.
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 So, to avoid this...they just avoid thinking about these things. But this results in most of their philosophical positions being contradictory and incoherent. So, to avoid this...they just avoid thinking about these things. But this results in most of their philosophical positions being contradictory and incoherent.
 ==== Classification ==== ==== Classification ====
-Broadly, I think that adherents of SocJus can be broadly placed into three categories.\\+Broadly, I think that adherents of SocJus can be placed into three categories.\\
 Those being: Those being:
   - The ideologically pure.   - The ideologically pure.
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 These are also the easiest to break free from the ideology and the most likely to become victims of ostracization. These are also the easiest to break free from the ideology and the most likely to become victims of ostracization.
  
-Half-Hearted typically aren't as tuned-into the ideology as the Ideologically Pure, so they often find themselves running afoul of the eternal purity test.+Half-Hearted typically aren't as tuned-in to the ideology as the Ideologically Pure, so they often find themselves running afoul of the eternal purity test.
  
-Basically, anyone who says “I was woke once but I'm not every since x” then they're almost certainly a former Half-Hearted.+Basically, anyone who says “I was woke once but I'm not ever since x” then they're almost certainly a former Half-Hearted.
  
 These differentiate themselves further by having the capacity to see their own hypocritical beliefs. Though their solution to avoiding being hypocritical is the freeze and voluntary shutdown. These differentiate themselves further by having the capacity to see their own hypocritical beliefs. Though their solution to avoiding being hypocritical is the freeze and voluntary shutdown.
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 I was initially hesitant to bring it up just because of how soul-crushing it is, but the Pakistani Grooming Gangs in the UK are the ultimate proof that SocJus is dangerous. The existence of these gangs and their lack of punishment is a direct consequence of SocJus dominance in the UK. Though I won't go into detail because finding information on them isn't difficult and I don't really want to. But keep in mind that the response chosen was to //pretend they didn't exist// because it directly contradicted SocJus ideology. I was initially hesitant to bring it up just because of how soul-crushing it is, but the Pakistani Grooming Gangs in the UK are the ultimate proof that SocJus is dangerous. The existence of these gangs and their lack of punishment is a direct consequence of SocJus dominance in the UK. Though I won't go into detail because finding information on them isn't difficult and I don't really want to. But keep in mind that the response chosen was to //pretend they didn't exist// because it directly contradicted SocJus ideology.
  
-Additional evidence which shows the negative effect of SocJus in real-life is the case of mass migration into Europe, which has led to untold suffering in Western Europe while countries that oppose it are getting punished for doing so.+Additional evidence which shows the negative effect of SocJus in real-life is the case of mass migration into Europe, which has led to untold suffering in Western Europe while countries that oppose it are getting punished for avoiding it.
  
 New York and Los Angeles were formerly highly prestigious and beautiful cities which were reduced to something lesser as a result of SocJus leadership. New York and Los Angeles were formerly highly prestigious and beautiful cities which were reduced to something lesser as a result of SocJus leadership.
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 > My point is not that everything is bad, but that everything is dangerous, which is not exactly the same as bad. If everything is dangerous, then we always have something to do. So, my position leads not to apathy but to a hyper- and pessimistic activism. I think that the ethico-political choice we have to make every day is to determine which is the main danger. > My point is not that everything is bad, but that everything is dangerous, which is not exactly the same as bad. If everything is dangerous, then we always have something to do. So, my position leads not to apathy but to a hyper- and pessimistic activism. I think that the ethico-political choice we have to make every day is to determine which is the main danger.
  
-This quote, which I include in the opening text, is by **//Foucault//** – one of the **founders** of Post-Modernism.\\+This quote is by **//Foucault//** – one of the **founders** of Post-Modernism.\\
 To put this quote into layman's terms: it means that there is //always// more to fight, more to demand and more to gain. It's just that, in the short-term, they need to figure out what to prioritize. But the fight will never end. To put this quote into layman's terms: it means that there is //always// more to fight, more to demand and more to gain. It's just that, in the short-term, they need to figure out what to prioritize. But the fight will never end.
  
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 | Moral Panic Christianity           | Christians                                    | Satanists, atheists                                                                   | Media; table-top games; video games                                                                              |  No                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               | | Moral Panic Christianity           | Christians                                    | Satanists, atheists                                                                   | Media; table-top games; video games                                                                              |  No                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |
 | Open-Source Software Movement      | Developers, Users                             | Microsoft (primarily); Apple (secondarily); corporations; the Free Software Movement  | Proprietary software; closed source code; Embrace, Extend, Extinguish; overly-restrictive Open-Source Licensing  |  50/50((:fn:>They think that ideology is distracting. So it's more of a pragmatic disagreement than one over principles. But many big projects still go all-in. There's also a lot of overlap with the Free Software Movement.))                                  | | Open-Source Software Movement      | Developers, Users                             | Microsoft (primarily); Apple (secondarily); corporations; the Free Software Movement  | Proprietary software; closed source code; Embrace, Extend, Extinguish; overly-restrictive Open-Source Licensing  |  50/50((:fn:>They think that ideology is distracting. So it's more of a pragmatic disagreement than one over principles. But many big projects still go all-in. There's also a lot of overlap with the Free Software Movement.))                                  |
-| Post-Modern Anti-Semitism          | Non-Jews                                      | Jews                                                                                  | Anything controlled by Jews: the media; Hollywood; Banks; Health Industry; etc.                                  | No                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                | +| Post-Modern Anti-Semitism          | Non-Jews                                      | Jews                                                                                  | Anything controlled by Jews: the media; Hollywood; Banks; Health Industry; etc.                                  |  No                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               | 
-| Post-Modern Ukrainian Nationalism  | Ukrainians                                    | Russians, Rusophiles                                                                  | Russian Propaganda                                                                                               | Yes((:fn:>SocJus voluntarily adopted the position that Ukraine was better. Though Ukrainians themselves probably don't care.))                                                                                                                                    | +| Post-Modern Ukrainian Nationalism  | Ukrainians                                    | Russians, Rusophiles                                                                  | Russian Propaganda                                                                                               |  Yes((:fn:>SocJus voluntarily adopted the position that Ukraine was better. Though Ukrainians themselves probably don't care.))                                                                                                                                   | 
-| Piracy                             | Consumers                                     | Corporations                                                                          | Copyright law                                                                                                    | 50/50((:fn:>Individual pirates generally are not (they associate corporations with SocJus) but the European Pirate Parties are.))                                                                                                                                 |+| Piracy                             | Consumers                                     | Corporations                                                                          | Copyright law                                                                                                    |  50/50((:fn:>Individual pirates generally are not (they associate corporations with SocJus) but the European Pirate Parties are.))                                                                                                                                |
 | Satanism                           | Satanists; atheists; apatheists               | Christians                                                                            | The Bible; Insinuating Satan is bad                                                                              |  Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              | | Satanism                           | Satanists; atheists; apatheists               | Christians                                                                            | The Bible; Insinuating Satan is bad                                                                              |  Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
 | SocJus Islam                       | Muslims                                       | Everyone else                                                                         | Non-Sharia law; secularism                                                                                       |  50/50((:fn:>Derived from Post-Colonial Theory, but can vary between those who are SocJus cosplaying as real Muslims or radical Islamists. The latter are opportunists, the former are stupid. Hasan Piker is probably the pre-eminent example of a cosplayer.))  | | SocJus Islam                       | Muslims                                       | Everyone else                                                                         | Non-Sharia law; secularism                                                                                       |  50/50((:fn:>Derived from Post-Colonial Theory, but can vary between those who are SocJus cosplaying as real Muslims or radical Islamists. The latter are opportunists, the former are stupid. Hasan Piker is probably the pre-eminent example of a cosplayer.))  |
-| SocJus Judaism                     | Jews                                          | Anti-Semites                                                                          | Holocaust denial; anti-semitic conspiracy theories                                                               | Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |+| SocJus Judaism                     | Jews                                          | Anti-Semites                                                                          | Holocaust denial; anti-semitic conspiracy theories                                                               |  Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
 | Veganism                           | Animals, vegans                               | Meat-eaters; restaurants; food industry                                               | I...can’t actually think of anything specific.                                                                   |  Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              | | Veganism                           | Animals, vegans                               | Meat-eaters; restaurants; food industry                                               | I...can’t actually think of anything specific.                                                                   |  Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
 | TERFs (Feminist Theory)            | Women                                         | Men; Transgenders                                                                     | Same as Feminist Theory; Queer Theory                                                                            |  No((:fn:>Split off from SocJus.))                                                                                                                                                                                                                                | | TERFs (Feminist Theory)            | Women                                         | Men; Transgenders                                                                     | Same as Feminist Theory; Queer Theory                                                                            |  No((:fn:>Split off from SocJus.))                                                                                                                                                                                                                                |
-==== MAPs ==== 
-**Minor Attracted Persons** or MAPs was a pretty transparent attempt by pedophiles at getting into SocJus and it mostly failed, though it did survive in a way. 
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-They were laughed at and soon disintegrated. However, it could be (and probably //should be//) argued that they realized it's smarter to become ‘accepted’ via Queer Theory. So while the attempt at getting explicitly recognized failed, they still managed to get into SocJus. 
- 
-This also explains why SocJus gets nervous about anything that hinders or harms pedophiles or protects children from SocJus. They are almost certainly aware of this ‘infiltration’. And, again, there's precedent with John Money being the originator of their concept of ‘gender’. 
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-Though it should be noted that SocJus, on the surface, claims not to support pedophilia 9most of the time). But keep in mind that they are serial liars who make a lot of claims. 
-==== New Atheists ==== 
-I want to write a dedicated article about [[lb:New Atheism]] at some point, so I'll try to keep this brief. I'll also note that this is one of the ideologies I disliked //before// realizing they were Post-Modernist. 
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-New Atheists clearly exemplify all the behaviors of a Post-Modern ideology and I felt a little embarrassed once I realized this. Their position is inherently irrational((:fn:>The idea that capital-G God doesn't exist and if he did we should reject him. In addition, they believe that religion has no positive effects.)) and they're selective about facts.\\ 
-Plus, like many Post-modern ideologies, they tend to single out one entity as the main threat – Christianity – and mostly ignore other religions. 
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-New Atheists don't belong to SocJus but they do flirt with the ideology occasionally. More accurately, New Atheists are split.\\ 
-On the one hand, Queer Theory is filled with people with the same positions as New Atheists. On the other hand, New Atheists really don't like the denial of science (despite their own denial of science).\\ 
-Plus some overlap exists with their positions: hatred of Christianity is shared with Queer Theory. Wicca is //basically// a Feminist Theory religion((:fn:>Though it pre-dates Post-Modernism's creation I think it's pretty safe to say that, at this point, Wicca //is// just a front for Feminist Theory.)) and it also hates Christianity. 
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-What makes the relationship between New Atheism and SocJus even funnier is that one of the big early opponents of SocJus was the online Skeptic Community. That community was almost certainly birthed out of New Atheism.\\ 
-So it's a bit ironic, though not surprising, that a Post-Modern ideology was one of the first to fight back against a Post-Modern ideology. Though it also demonstrates that Post-Modernism isn't a monolith. 
- 
-==== Marxism ==== 
-Marxism and Post-modernism is an ambiguous relationship though one that should be explained.\\ 
-Let's get this out of the way first: Post-Modern Marxism is probably the dominant form of Marxism right now and, yes, it //does// exist. 
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-SocJus as a whole borrows a lot from Marxist thinking, just that they prefer to cosplay as Marxists rather than //be// full-fledged Marxists. Socialism is the most popular ‘economic system’ among the SocJus for a reason. 
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-Now we'll get into the thing I hinted at: the SocJus like to deny that Post-Modern Marxism exists. I mentioned the Cynical Historian in a footnote as one example of a person denying this connection (despite Hasan and Vaush existing). 
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-Denial occurs due to a surface-level – and, frankly, childish – look at Post-Modernism's foundational beliefs.\\ 
-Basically, Post-Modernism's denial of reality manifests as them rejecting ‘metanarratives’ which are basically just philosophical frameworks used to view and analyze reality. The Post-Modern founders explicitly identified Marxism as a metanarrative and consequently purposely rejected it. This supposedly makes Post-Modernism antithetical to Marxism and, thus, Post-Modern Marxism cannot exist. 
- 
-However, by its own definition of metanarrative...Post-Modernism is //also// a metanarrative...so Post-Modernism is antithetical to Post-Modernism. Does that mean Post-Modernism doesn't exist? Obviously not.\\ 
-And, again, Post-Modernism is built around a framework that allows holding multiple contradictory views. So the idea that Post-Modern Marxism doesn't exist is just ridiculous. 
- 
-That isn't even getting into the fact Post-Modernism directly descends from Marxism via a middle-man called ‘Neo-Marxism’. 
- 
-Generally, this connection is denied most often by people who are Post-Modernists. So don't take them seriously. 
 ==== Christianity ==== ==== Christianity ====
 Christianity and SocJus have an unusual relationship because Christianity is a target of attack as an oppressor by most of the constituent ideologies of SocJus.\\ Christianity and SocJus have an unusual relationship because Christianity is a target of attack as an oppressor by most of the constituent ideologies of SocJus.\\
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 This connection with Post-Modernism/SocJus is implicitly understood by many people, though they usually don't reach the conclusion that MPC is a distinct ideology that doesn't get along with SocJus. This connection with Post-Modernism/SocJus is implicitly understood by many people, though they usually don't reach the conclusion that MPC is a distinct ideology that doesn't get along with SocJus.
-==== TERFs ==== 
-**Trans-Exclusionary Raidcal Feminists** or TERFs are a //very// interesting example and I hope to convince you why. 
- 
-TERFs are quite literally just Feminist Theorists who broke off from SocJus and now actively oppose it. The reason being that they noticed a contradiction and, instead of just ignoring it, they chose to explicitly reject it.\\ 
-That contradiction was with Queer Theory. Queer Theory believes that there are no differences between men and women and that it's all socialization. So, basically: men and women don't exist. Feminist Theory, on the other hand, believes that women are oppressed by men.\\ 
-Feminist Theory requires men and women to actually meaningfully exist because, if they don't, their entire ideology is rendered meaningless. TERFs realized this and, consequently, started to reject Queer Theory. They did this by adopting the position that men and women are biologically distinct. 
- 
-Consequently, TERFs were thrown out from the greater alliance.\\ 
-This is where all the interesting things start to happen. 
- 
-If you haven't noticed it, I'll point it out explicitly: TERFs adopted the position that biological sex is real. This //directly contradicts Post-Modern philosophy// which asserts that //nothing// is real.\\ 
-This means that the TERFs have done something no other Post-Modern ideology has done: they tethered themselves to reality. 
- 
-And that's why TERFs are becoming even more unusual from the perspective of someone who hasn't noticed this key fact. They have become so radicalized that they looped all the way back to supporting traditional gender roles.\\ 
-Feminists are generally known for rejecting traditional gender roles but because TERFs have adopted the position that men and women //are// different...they've started to warm up to those roles again. Because you can only really reject a lot of traditional gender roles if you start from the position that men and women //aren't// different or that they //shouldn't// be treated differently.\\ 
-But since they believe with 100% certainty that men and women //are// different...a lot of those older roles are starting to make some sense to them. 
- 
-So while a regular SocJus Feminist Theorist might see a prostitute nd go “Slaaaay, Queen ♥~” a TERF might look at the same prostitute with disgust. Though take this with a grain of salt, since I'm not 100% sure, only about 93%.\\ 
-Though it //is// funny to think about. 
- 
-And this is why TERFs are the most likely of all Post-Modernists to come back to the light and why this transition should be encouraged by opponents of Post-Modernism. 
- 
-In the UK, TERFs and feminists have even gone a step further and started rejecting Post-Colonial Theory: with them now actively campaigning for deporting foreigners due to them being statistically most responsible for most of the sex crimes in the UK. Alongside the aforementioned Pakistani Grooming Gangs. 
- 
-I actually find it a little odd and kinda sad that – to my knowledge at least – nobody else has noticed the fact TERFs have tethered themselves to reality. Like, they may actually be the source of a far more positive feminism long-term.\\ 
-I mean, accepting that men and women //are// different also means there's a high likelihood they'll stop seeing men as the enemy, and simply want to celebrate those differences. 
 ==== Free & Open-Source Software Movements ==== ==== Free & Open-Source Software Movements ====
 When I told a friend that I started to think Richard Stallman was a Post-Modernist, he responded with “I don't even know what is or isn't Post-Modernist anymore” which I think perfectly encapsulates Post-Modernism. When I told a friend that I started to think Richard Stallman was a Post-Modernist, he responded with “I don't even know what is or isn't Post-Modernist anymore” which I think perfectly encapsulates Post-Modernism.
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 A lot of open-source projects gravitate towards SocJus via things like Codes of Conduct and disassociation with certain projects. There are some very extreme and laughable examples of this happening too, like Hundred Rabbits (100R) choosing to leave Github because Microsoft sells Office to ICE. No, I'm not joking, that is their actual reasoning.\\ A lot of open-source projects gravitate towards SocJus via things like Codes of Conduct and disassociation with certain projects. There are some very extreme and laughable examples of this happening too, like Hundred Rabbits (100R) choosing to leave Github because Microsoft sells Office to ICE. No, I'm not joking, that is their actual reasoning.\\
-Another blatant example of this would be [[https://nilesoft.org|Nilesoft]] which is a Windows Context Menu customizer. What on Earth does that have to do with with war in Palestine?+Another blatant example of this would be [[https://nilesoft.org|Nilesoft]] which is a Windows Context Menu customizer. What on Earth does that have to do with the war in Palestine?
  
 Both ideologies also have that one big enemy: Microsoft. And, yes, it's explicitly Microsoft. This is because neither movement cares what corporations they work with provided those corporations aren't Microsoft.\\ Both ideologies also have that one big enemy: Microsoft. And, yes, it's explicitly Microsoft. This is because neither movement cares what corporations they work with provided those corporations aren't Microsoft.\\
 A very small list of corporations they're fine with would be IBM, Red Hat, Sun Microsystems (when they still existed), Apple, Oracle and many more I can’t think of. A lot of these are at times much much worse than Microsoft, yet they don't care: because //Microsoft is the enemy//, not //Oracle//. A very small list of corporations they're fine with would be IBM, Red Hat, Sun Microsystems (when they still existed), Apple, Oracle and many more I can’t think of. A lot of these are at times much much worse than Microsoft, yet they don't care: because //Microsoft is the enemy//, not //Oracle//.
  
-And like any other Post-Modern ideology, they have the same blindspots. They don't realize that “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” is a far better description of GNU and Linux's approach to competition than it does Microsoft.\\+And like any other Post-Modern ideology, they have the same blindspots. They don't realize that “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” is a far better description of GNU and Linux's approach to competition than it does Microsoft's.\\
 The GNU Project was explicitly founded to clone proprietary software, then promote their use over proprietary software with the explicit goal of becoming the standard to kill proprietary software. How this is seen as ethical is beyond me, but Post-Modernists are not exactly rational thinkers.\\ The GNU Project was explicitly founded to clone proprietary software, then promote their use over proprietary software with the explicit goal of becoming the standard to kill proprietary software. How this is seen as ethical is beyond me, but Post-Modernists are not exactly rational thinkers.\\
 Linux has a similar approach, though it could be argued it's accidental rather than intentional like in the case of the GNU. Linux has a similar approach, though it could be argued it's accidental rather than intentional like in the case of the GNU.
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 Something else that's important to note is that the Free Software Movement //cannot// and //will not// support the abolition of copyright. On the surface this is strange and a little contradictory, but it makes sense once you realize...the truth.\\ Something else that's important to note is that the Free Software Movement //cannot// and //will not// support the abolition of copyright. On the surface this is strange and a little contradictory, but it makes sense once you realize...the truth.\\
 Both movements enforce Open-Source via their //software licenses// which dictate what can and can’t be done with their code. Without the license, there's no way to make sure that any fork of a project remains open-source (which is what they want).\\ Both movements enforce Open-Source via their //software licenses// which dictate what can and can’t be done with their code. Without the license, there's no way to make sure that any fork of a project remains open-source (which is what they want).\\
-Those software licenses are //copyright licenses// and, thus, //copyright// is a tool they sue to enforce open-source.+Those software licenses are //copyright licenses// and, thus, //copyright// is a tool they use to enforce open-source.
  
 This is why they're always quiet when the topic of abolishing copyright comes up: their movements would immediately disintegrate. This is why they're always quiet when the topic of abolishing copyright comes up: their movements would immediately disintegrate.
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 Regarding the third point, I think it's possible that Incels adopted Post-Modern thinking as a consequence of observing it in their interactions with Feminist Theorists. Though this is a big guess, I've just observed that many people who call themselves ‘anti-woke’ tend to have the same kind of thought process as Post-Modernists. It may or may not have started with the Incels. Regarding the third point, I think it's possible that Incels adopted Post-Modern thinking as a consequence of observing it in their interactions with Feminist Theorists. Though this is a big guess, I've just observed that many people who call themselves ‘anti-woke’ tend to have the same kind of thought process as Post-Modernists. It may or may not have started with the Incels.
 +==== MAPs ====
 +**Minor Attracted Persons** or MAPs was a pretty transparent attempt by pedophiles at getting into SocJus and it mostly failed, though it did survive in a way.
 +
 +They were laughed at and soon disintegrated. However, it could be (and probably //should be//) argued that they realized it's smarter to become ‘accepted’ via Queer Theory. So while the attempt at getting explicitly recognized failed, they still managed to get into SocJus.
 +
 +This also explains why SocJus gets nervous about anything that hinders or harms pedophiles or protects children from SocJus. They are almost certainly aware of this ‘infiltration’. And, again, there's precedent with John Money being the originator of their concept of ‘gender’.
 +
 +Though it should be noted that SocJus, on the surface, claims not to support pedophilia 9most of the time). But keep in mind that they are serial liars who make a lot of claims.
 +==== Marxism ====
 +Marxism and Post-modernism is an ambiguous relationship though one that should be explained.\\
 +Let's get this out of the way first: Post-Modern Marxism is probably the dominant form of Marxism right now and, yes, it //does// exist.
 +
 +SocJus as a whole borrows a lot from Marxist thinking, just that they prefer to cosplay as Marxists rather than //be// full-fledged Marxists. Socialism is the most popular ‘economic system’ among the SocJus for a reason.
 +
 +Now we'll get into the thing I hinted at: the SocJus like to deny that Post-Modern Marxism exists. I mentioned the Cynical Historian in a footnote as one example of a person denying this connection (despite Hasan and Vaush existing).
 +
 +Denial occurs due to a surface-level – and, frankly, childish – look at Post-Modernism's foundational beliefs.\\
 +Basically, Post-Modernism's denial of reality manifests as them rejecting ‘metanarratives’ which are basically just philosophical frameworks used to view and analyze reality. The Post-Modern founders explicitly identified Marxism as a metanarrative and consequently purposely rejected it. This supposedly makes Post-Modernism antithetical to Marxism and, thus, Post-Modern Marxism cannot exist.
 +
 +However, by its own definition of metanarrative...Post-Modernism is //also// a metanarrative...so Post-Modernism is antithetical to Post-Modernism. Does that mean Post-Modernism doesn't exist? Obviously not.\\
 +And, again, Post-Modernism is built around a framework that allows holding multiple contradictory views. So the idea that Post-Modern Marxism doesn't exist is just ridiculous.
 +
 +That isn't even getting into the fact Post-Modernism directly descends from Marxism via a middle-man called ‘Neo-Marxism’.
 +
 +Generally, this connection is denied most often by people who are Post-Modernists. So don't take them seriously.
 +==== New Atheists ====
 +I want to write a dedicated article about [[lb:New Atheism]] at some point, so I'll try to keep this brief. I'll also note that this is one of the ideologies I disliked //before// realizing they were Post-Modernist.
 +
 +New Atheists clearly exemplify all the behaviors of a Post-Modern ideology and I felt a little embarrassed once I realized this. Their position is inherently irrational((:fn:>The idea that capital-G God doesn't exist (I'll note I'm not a Christian or follow an Abrahamic faith – my point here is that the most rational position to take is that you //don't know//, not that God //doesn't exist//) and if he did we should reject him. In addition, they believe that religion has no positive effects.)) and they're selective about facts.\\
 +Plus, like many Post-modern ideologies, they tend to single out one entity as the main threat – Christianity – and mostly ignore other religions.
 +
 +New Atheists don't belong to SocJus but they do flirt with the ideology occasionally. More accurately, New Atheists are split.\\
 +On the one hand, Queer Theory is filled with people with the same positions as New Atheists. On the other hand, New Atheists really don't like the denial of science (despite their own denial of science).\\
 +Plus some overlap exists with their positions: hatred of Christianity is shared with Queer Theory. Wicca is //basically// a Feminist Theory religion((:fn:>Though it pre-dates Post-Modernism's creation I think it's pretty safe to say that, at this point, Wicca //is// just a front for Feminist Theory.)) and it also hates Christianity.
 +
 +What makes the relationship between New Atheism and SocJus even funnier is that one of the big early opponents of SocJus was the online Skeptic Community. That community was almost certainly birthed out of New Atheism.\\
 +So it's a bit ironic, though not surprising, that a Post-Modern ideology was one of the first to fight back against a Post-Modern ideology. Though it also demonstrates that Post-Modernism isn't a monolith.
 ==== Post-Modernism & Judaism ==== ==== Post-Modernism & Judaism ====
 This is one that I only observed //super// casually, so I don't know too much. Take what I say here with a bigger grain of salt than everything else. This is one that I only observed //super// casually, so I don't know too much. Take what I say here with a bigger grain of salt than everything else.
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 Ironically, one of the other big representatives of this particular ideology is probably Mutahar, who is otherwise anti-SocJus. It's just really ironic that he doesn't realize his ideology is Post-Modern. And he also demonstrates Post-Modern-style hypocrisy like the situation surrounding the Switch 2. Ironically, one of the other big representatives of this particular ideology is probably Mutahar, who is otherwise anti-SocJus. It's just really ironic that he doesn't realize his ideology is Post-Modern. And he also demonstrates Post-Modern-style hypocrisy like the situation surrounding the Switch 2.
 +==== TERFs ====
 +**Trans-Exclusionary Raidcal Feminists** or TERFs are a //very// interesting example and I hope to convince you why.
 +
 +TERFs are quite literally just Feminist Theorists who broke off from SocJus and now actively oppose it. The reason being that they noticed a contradiction and, instead of just ignoring it, they chose to explicitly reject it.\\
 +That contradiction was with Queer Theory. Queer Theory believes that there are no differences between men and women and that it's all socialization. So, basically: men and women don't exist. Feminist Theory, on the other hand, believes that women are oppressed by men.\\
 +Feminist Theory requires men and women to actually meaningfully exist because, if they don't, their entire ideology is rendered meaningless. TERFs realized this and, consequently, started to reject Queer Theory. They did this by adopting the position that men and women are biologically distinct.
 +
 +Consequently, TERFs were thrown out from the greater alliance.\\
 +This is where all the interesting things start to happen.
 +
 +If you haven't noticed it, I'll point it out explicitly: TERFs adopted the position that biological sex is real. This //directly contradicts Post-Modern philosophy// which asserts that //nothing// is real.\\
 +This means that the TERFs have done something no other Post-Modern ideology has done: they tethered themselves to reality.
 +
 +And that's why TERFs are becoming even more unusual from the perspective of someone who hasn't noticed this key fact. They have become so radicalized that they looped all the way back to supporting traditional gender roles.\\
 +Feminists are generally known for rejecting traditional gender roles but because TERFs have adopted the position that men and women //are// different...they've started to warm up to those roles again. Because you can only really reject a lot of traditional gender roles if you start from the position that men and women //aren't// different or that they //shouldn't// be treated differently.\\
 +But since they believe with 100% certainty that men and women //are// different...a lot of those older roles are starting to make some sense to them.
 +
 +So while a regular SocJus Feminist Theorist might see a prostitute nd go “Slaaaay, Queen ♥~” a TERF might look at the same prostitute with disgust. Though take this with a grain of salt, since I'm not 100% sure, only about 93%.\\
 +Though it //is// funny to think about.
 +
 +And this is why TERFs are the most likely of all Post-Modernists to come back to the light and why this transition should be encouraged by opponents of Post-Modernism.
 +
 +In the UK, TERFs and feminists have even gone a step further and started rejecting Post-Colonial Theory: with them now actively campaigning for deporting foreigners due to them being statistically most responsible for most of the sex crimes in the UK. Alongside the aforementioned Pakistani Grooming Gangs.
 +
 +I actually find it a little odd and kinda sad that – to my knowledge at least – nobody else has noticed the fact TERFs have tethered themselves to reality. Like, they may actually be the source of a far more positive feminism long-term.\\
 +I mean, accepting that men and women //are// different also means there's a high likelihood they'll stop seeing men as the enemy, and simply want to celebrate those differences.
 ===== Media Relevance ===== ===== Media Relevance =====
 You'll have noticed, probably, that my wiki is mostly focused around media and stories...so you might start to wonder what //this article// is doing here.\\ You'll have noticed, probably, that my wiki is mostly focused around media and stories...so you might start to wonder what //this article// is doing here.\\
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 As far as I know, the following ideas are tied to SocJus/Post-Modern thought in storytelling: As far as I know, the following ideas are tied to SocJus/Post-Modern thought in storytelling:
-  * [[lb:damsel.in.distress]] being universally negative.+  * [[lb:damsel.in.distress]] being universally perceived as negative.
   * [[lb:manic pixie dream girl|Manic Pixie Dream Girl]]. I believe the term originated with them and is considered universally negative.   * [[lb:manic pixie dream girl|Manic Pixie Dream Girl]]. I believe the term originated with them and is considered universally negative.
   * [[lb:ludo-narrative.dissonance]]: coined by Games Journalists, probably the pre-eminent example of being ideologically compromised.   * [[lb:ludo-narrative.dissonance]]: coined by Games Journalists, probably the pre-eminent example of being ideologically compromised.
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