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 ====== Quenya ======
-<wrap tengwar></wrap>(Quenya) is a constructed language created by [[lb:tolkien]] for his [[lb:legendarium|Legendarium]]. It is the language of the High Elves – the Vanyar and the Noldor.
+<wrap tengwar></wrap>(Quenya) is a constructed language created by [[lb:tolkien]] for his [[lb:legendarium|Legendarium]]. It is the language of the High Elves – the Vanyar and the Noldor. By the Third Age of Middle-Earth, it's only a scholarly language.\\
+It is primarily written using [[lb:tl:tengwar]],((:fn:>In the Classical Mode.)) but it's also written using the [[lb:tl:Sarati]].
-By the Third Age of Middle-Earth, it's only a scholarly language.
+Quenya is also known as the ‘Elvish Latin’ or the Latin/Finnish Elven language.
 I personally prefer Quenya over [[lb:tl:Sindarin]], despite the latter (apparently) being the more popular language.
 {{tag>legendarium linguas}}
+===== Notes =====
+==== Neo-Quenya ====
+I haven't quite decided yet, but I'm pretty sure that (unless stated otherwise) when I say //Quenya//, I'll be referring to //Neo-Quenya//. Though, again, I haven't decided yet.
+The reason I'm thinking of doing this is for the simple fact that I want to learn Quenya and then integrate Quenya into this wiki somehow. Whether that be thru the articles on linguistics or just for fun.\\
+And because Tolkien never finished Quenya, that naturally means I'd be using //Neo-//Quenya.\\
+But the reason I'm thinking about whether I should explicitly call it Neo-Quenya or not is that I don't want to be misleading. Neo-Quenya isn't really the language that Tolkien envisioned.
+I'm considering just calling it something else entirely too, though I'm not sure //what//.
+===== Dialects =====
+The Quenya that we know the most about is the one spoken by the Noldor, who arrived in Middle-Earth in the First Age. It was from them that the language became the ‘elf-latin’ that we all know and love. Third Age Quenya is descended from this Noldorin one.
+However! There //is// at least one other dialect that we don't know much about and which, by now, I'd guess is a separate language entirely.((:fn:>I'm guessing this because it must have experienced //some// kind of development while Quenya existed in Middle-Earth. Alternatively...it //didn't// evolve and Middle-Earth Quenya evolved instead...which would make Vanyarin similar to Icelandic in the primary world.))
+==== Vanyarin (Quenya) ====
+Vanyarin Quenya is the dialect spoken by the Vanyar. It's notable (to me) for being just weird enough that it caught my interest.
+Now, to be clear...we((:fn:>Referring collectively to scholarship and the fanbase because, obviously, I'm a bit behind on all fronts.)) don't know much about it. We know a few things, like some sound changes that did and didn't occur...but that's about it. I did read [[http://www.science-and-fiction.org/elvish/vanyarin_quenya.html|this]] which looks at what we //do// know.
+I may detail a little more about it (and what it may look like) once I learn a little more...and also stop being so lazy.