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 ====== Quenya ====== ====== Quenya ======
-<wrap tengwar></wrap>(Quenya) is a constructed language created by [[lb:tolkien]] for his [[lb:legendarium|Legendarium]]. It is the language of the High Elves – the Vanyar and the Noldor. By the Third Age of Middle-Earth, it's only a scholarly language.+<div subtitle> 
 +{{tag>legendarium linguas}} 
 +</div> 
 +<div passage> 
 +<dfn tengwar :qya></dfn>(Quenya) is a constructed language created by [[lb:tolkien]] for his [[lb:legendarium|Legendarium]]. It is the language of the High Elves – the [[lb:tl:Vanyar]] and the [[lb:tl:Noldor]]. By the [[lb:tl:Third Age]] of <span notion>Middle-Earth</span>, it's only a scholarly language. 
 + 
 +It is primarily written using [[lb:tl:tengwar]],((:fn:>In the Classical Mode.)) but it's also written using the [[lb:tl:Sarati]]. 
 +</div>
  
 Quenya is also known as the ‘Elvish Latin’ or the Latin/Finnish Elven language. Quenya is also known as the ‘Elvish Latin’ or the Latin/Finnish Elven language.
  
 I personally prefer Quenya over [[lb:tl:Sindarin]], despite the latter (apparently) being the more popular language. I personally prefer Quenya over [[lb:tl:Sindarin]], despite the latter (apparently) being the more popular language.
-{{tag>legendarium linguas}} 
 ===== Notes ===== ===== Notes =====
 ==== Neo-Quenya ==== ==== Neo-Quenya ====
-I haven't quite decided yet, but I'm pretty sure that (unless stated otherwise) when I say //Quenya//, I'll be referring to //Neo-Quenya//. Though, again, I haven't decided yet.+I haven't quite decided yet, but I'm pretty sure that (unless stated otherwise) when I say //Quenya//, I'll be referring to //Neo-Quenya//. Though, again, I haven't decided //yet//.((:fn:>It's been a while and I still haven't decided on it.)) 
 + 
 +<div passage> 
 +The reason I'm thinking of doing this is for the simple fact that I want to learn Quenya and then integrate Quenya into this wiki somehow. Whether that be through the articles on linguistics or just for fun. 
 + 
 +And because Tolkien never finished Quenya, that naturally means I'd be using //Neo-//Quenya.
  
-The reason I'm thinking of doing this is for the simple fact that I want to learn Quenya and then integrate Quenya into this wiki somehow. Whether that be thru the articles on linguistics or just for fun.\\ 
-And because Tolkien never finished Quenya, that naturally means I'd be using //Neo-//Quenya.\\ 
 But the reason I'm thinking about whether I should explicitly call it Neo-Quenya or not is that I don't want to be misleading. Neo-Quenya isn't really the language that Tolkien envisioned. But the reason I'm thinking about whether I should explicitly call it Neo-Quenya or not is that I don't want to be misleading. Neo-Quenya isn't really the language that Tolkien envisioned.
 +</div>
  
 I'm considering just calling it something else entirely too, though I'm not sure //what//. I'm considering just calling it something else entirely too, though I'm not sure //what//.
 ===== Dialects ===== ===== Dialects =====
-The Quenya that we know the most about is the one spoken by the Noldor, who arrived in Middle-Earth in the First Age. It was from them that the language became the ‘elf-latin’ that we all know and love. Third Age Quenya is descended from this Noldorin one.+The Quenya that we know the most about is the one spoken by the Noldor, who arrived in <span notion>Middle-Earth</span> in the [[lb:tl:First Age]]. It was from them that the language became the ‘elf-latin’ that we all know and love. Third Age Quenya is descended from this Noldorin one.
  
 However! There //is// at least one other dialect that we don't know much about and which, by now, I'd guess is a separate language entirely.((:fn:>I'm guessing this because it must have experienced //some// kind of development while Quenya existed in Middle-Earth. Alternatively...it //didn't// evolve and Middle-Earth Quenya evolved instead...which would make Vanyarin similar to Icelandic in the primary world.)) However! There //is// at least one other dialect that we don't know much about and which, by now, I'd guess is a separate language entirely.((:fn:>I'm guessing this because it must have experienced //some// kind of development while Quenya existed in Middle-Earth. Alternatively...it //didn't// evolve and Middle-Earth Quenya evolved instead...which would make Vanyarin similar to Icelandic in the primary world.))
 ==== Vanyarin (Quenya) ==== ==== Vanyarin (Quenya) ====
-Vanyarin Quenya is the dialect spoken by the Vanyar. It's notable (to me) for being just weird enough that it caught my interest.+Vanyarin Quenya is the dialect spoken by the Vanyar. It's notable (to me) for being //just// weird enough that it caught my interest.
  
 Now, to be clear...we((:fn:>Referring collectively to scholarship and the fanbase because, obviously, I'm a bit behind on all fronts.)) don't know much about it. We know a few things, like some sound changes that did and didn't occur...but that's about it. I did read [[http://www.science-and-fiction.org/elvish/vanyarin_quenya.html|this]] which looks at what we //do// know. Now, to be clear...we((:fn:>Referring collectively to scholarship and the fanbase because, obviously, I'm a bit behind on all fronts.)) don't know much about it. We know a few things, like some sound changes that did and didn't occur...but that's about it. I did read [[http://www.science-and-fiction.org/elvish/vanyarin_quenya.html|this]] which looks at what we //do// know.
  
-I may detail a little more about it (and what it may look like) once I learn a little more...and also stop being so lazy.+I may detail a little more about it (and what it may look like) once I learn a little more...and also stop being so //lazy//. 
 +===== Trivilinks ===== 
 +  * [[tlkg>Quenya]] 
 +  * [[https://eldamo.org/intro-quenya/index.html|Eldamo Introductory Quenya]] 
 +    * A course on learning Neo-Quenya by Paul Strack (the guy making the Eldamo). 
 +  * [[https://eldamo.org/content/search/search.html?neo|Neo-Eldarin Search – Eldamo]] 
 +    * I'm specifically linking to the part of Eldamo where you can search thru Neo-Quenya words, because I feel that would be more useful to more people. However, there are additional ‘search types’ that you can access on Eldamo. 
 +  * [[https://eldamo.org/content/language-pages/lang-nq.html|Neo-Quenya – Eldamo]] 
 +  * [[https://eldamo.org/content/language-pages/lang-q.html|(Late) Quenya – Eldamo]] 
 +  * [[https://eldamo.org/content/language-pages/lang-van.html|Vanyarin – Eldamo]] 
 +  * [[https://eldamo.org/content/language-pages/lang-aq.html|Ancient Quenya]] 
 +  * [[https://elfdict.com/|Parf Edhellen]] 
 +    * Parf Edhellen is a dictionary of Neo-Elvish, which includes Quenya. I personally haven't used it as I'm mostly satisfied with Eldamo (for now).
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