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 I think that while his world is very intricate and detailed...whether it's an example of good worldbuilding or not is ambiguous. For example: most of his languages don't really exist in any ‘complete’ form. Though it's like this because Tolkien didn't create them with the intent of use: they were made to satisfy his aesthetic and creative tastes.\\
 It's kinda difficult to figure out how to explain what I'm thinking here, but I think what I mean is that what's there is generally of a high quality...but there's a lot missing. A lot of what's missing can be inferred or reconstructed, but then some stuff just can’t.\\
-There are also possible issues with things like the timeline, but I'll leave that for the [[playground:Legendarium]]'s article.
+There are also possible issues with things like the timeline, but I'll leave that for the [[lb:legendarium|Legendarium]]’s article.
 I believe that Tolkien's fatal flaw was perfectionism. Basically, instead of just writing something, releasing it and moving on...he kept rewriting the same things over and over again, with the intent of making it perfect. This was the case with //The Lord of The Rings// which went thru multiple drafts before it was actually released...and was especially true of //The Silmarillion// which went thru many more of them.\\
-As a result, there's a surprising amount of stuff which is never actually properly explained or dealt with...and a lot of emptiness in the Legendarium. For example: the Hobbits – who are of supreme importance to the events of the Third Age – have no known origin and never appear prior to the Third Age. How Tolkien never noticed this glaring hole is perplexing. There are more examples, but I'll talk about that later.
+As a result, there's a surprising amount of stuff which is never properly explained or dealt with...and a lot of emptiness in the Legendarium.\\
+For example: the Hobbits – who are of supreme importance to the events of the Third Age – have no known origin and never appear prior to the Third Age. How Tolkien never noticed this glaring hole is perplexing. There are more examples, but I'll talk about that later.
 At some point I'll add a little more that isn't Legendarium-related, once I go thru it.
 ===== Trivilinks =====
   * [[https://www.tolkienestate.com/|Tolkien Estate's Website]]
+  * Something else to keep in mind that the method Tolkien apparently used to create languages differs from the method that currently dominates artistic conlanging (represented by //The Language Construction Kit// for example). Though I don't understand exactly //what// this method is, I //may// attempt to describe it if I ever get around to figuring it out.
+    * Carl F. Hostetter explains this in //“Elvish as She Is Spoke”//,((:fn:>I'll add a link to it later.)) but it's essentially just the creation of a //historical grammar//. Though my knowledge of linguistics is //very// poor because I don't know what that is.
+    * As far as I understand it, what Tolkien was doing was using a method to describe a //real// language just that he was using it to //make// a language. And this method just so happens to be one where verbs and syntax are at the //end//. If you're familiar with Tolkien, you'll probably feel //some// kind of pain because now you //know//.
+      * I'm saying this because it contrasts with the <abbr>LCK [Language Construction Kit]</abbr> method(s) that dominate now. Those methods are concerned with producing a language ex-nihilo using methods explicitly for language construction, whilst Tolkien was using a method for language //description//.
+  * I recently read [[https://dc.swosu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2566&context=mythlore|this]] which I will incorporate somewhat into this article...because I agree with the conclusion here, somewhat and I think I can put it into my own words.