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lb:tolkien [2025-08-24 18:50:32] – [Personal Evaluation] ninjasrlb:tolkien [2026-02-13 17:23:11] (current) – [J.R.R. Tolkien] ninjasr
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 ====== J.R.R. Tolkien ====== ====== J.R.R. Tolkien ======
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 **John Ronald Reuel Tolkien** was a philologist who worked at the University of Leeds and the University of Oxford...and he was also a writer. Though you're likely aware of that last bit.\\ **John Ronald Reuel Tolkien** was a philologist who worked at the University of Leeds and the University of Oxford...and he was also a writer. Though you're likely aware of that last bit.\\
 Following his death, his son Christopher Tolkien started editing and releasing his unfinished writings. Following his death, his son Christopher Tolkien started editing and releasing his unfinished writings.
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 Writing was essentially his hobby.\\ Writing was essentially his hobby.\\
 This is something I'm noting specifically because of comparisons to Mr. Martin.((:fn:>The author of the Song of Ice & Fire books. Some people compare Tolkien to Martin as a means of excusing Martin's failure to finish his story...but when you consider that Martin's full-time job is writing, while Tolkien's was not...and the books that he //did// release //were// finished...yeah, the comparison actually makes Martin look much worse.)) This is something I'm noting specifically because of comparisons to Mr. Martin.((:fn:>The author of the Song of Ice & Fire books. Some people compare Tolkien to Martin as a means of excusing Martin's failure to finish his story...but when you consider that Martin's full-time job is writing, while Tolkien's was not...and the books that he //did// release //were// finished...yeah, the comparison actually makes Martin look much worse.))
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 ===== Personal Evaluation ===== ===== Personal Evaluation =====
 I do really admire Tolkien, though I must admit that until fairly recently I didn't have much personal experience with his writings. However...that's not stopping me. I do really admire Tolkien, though I must admit that until fairly recently I didn't have much personal experience with his writings. However...that's not stopping me.
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     * Carl F. Hostetter explains this in //“Elvish as She Is Spoke”//,((:fn:>I'll add a link to it later.)) but it's essentially just the creation of a //historical grammar//. Though my knowledge of linguistics is //very// poor because I don't know what that is.     * Carl F. Hostetter explains this in //“Elvish as She Is Spoke”//,((:fn:>I'll add a link to it later.)) but it's essentially just the creation of a //historical grammar//. Though my knowledge of linguistics is //very// poor because I don't know what that is.
     * As far as I understand it, what Tolkien was doing was using a method to describe a //real// language just that he was using it to //make// a language. And this method just so happens to be one where verbs and syntax are at the //end//. If you're familiar with Tolkien, you'll probably feel //some// kind of pain because now you //know//.     * As far as I understand it, what Tolkien was doing was using a method to describe a //real// language just that he was using it to //make// a language. And this method just so happens to be one where verbs and syntax are at the //end//. If you're familiar with Tolkien, you'll probably feel //some// kind of pain because now you //know//.
-      * I'm saying this because it contrasts with the <abbr>LCK [Language Construction Kit]</abbr> method(s) that dominate now. Those methods are concerned with producing a language ex-nihilo using methods explicitly for language construction, whilst Tolkien was using a method for language //description//.+      * I'm saying this because it contrasts with the <abbr "Language Construction Kit">LCK</abbr> method(s) that dominate now. Those methods are concerned with producing a language ex-nihilo using methods explicitly for language construction, whilst Tolkien was using a method for language //description//.
   * I recently read [[https://dc.swosu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2566&context=mythlore|this]] which I will incorporate somewhat into this article...because I agree with the conclusion here, somewhat and I think I can put it into my own words.   * I recently read [[https://dc.swosu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2566&context=mythlore|this]] which I will incorporate somewhat into this article...because I agree with the conclusion here, somewhat and I think I can put it into my own words.
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