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lb:windows [2025-05-29 07:39:37] – [Step 1: Basic Look] ninjasrlb:windows [2025-05-29 07:45:35] (current) – [Seelen-UI] ninjasr
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 ==== Cairo Desktop ==== ==== Cairo Desktop ====
  
-First, Cairo. I used Cairo regularly for a few years because I didn't like the Windows 10 taskbar (or even my customized start menu, honestly), so I know a bit about it. Cairo is a very restrictive Shell, in that you don't have a lot of customization options...well, you can skin it, but there aren't many custom themes available for it, because nobody uses it. I tried to look into skinning and, honestly, I didn't get it. Maybe if I dedicated some time, I might be able to figure it out, but it isn't exactly straightforward. Though what you //do// get is something that is fairly polished. It's pleasant to use, despite its limitations...and the Programs Menu it provides is just nice.\\  Cairo can be run on top of the Explorer shell, but it also has the option of just straight-up replacing the it...which means Explorer doesn't even load upon a log-in. I would not recommend replacing the Shell, as Cairo just isn't good enough to be used like that yet...and you'd need to replace File Explorer, because you ain't running that. Also, none of the wallpaper software will work, so you'll have to set the wallpaper yourself using the Cairo settings.\\  On top of all that, development is slow.\\+First, Cairo. I used Cairo regularly for a few years because I didn't like the Windows 10 taskbar (or even my customized start menu, honestly), so I know a bit about it. Cairo is a very restrictive Shell, in that you don't have a lot of customization options...well, you can skin it, but there aren't many custom themes available for it, because nobody uses it. I tried to look into skinning and, honestly, I didn't get it. Maybe if I dedicated some time, I might be able to figure it out, but it isn't exactly straightforward. Though what you //do// get is something that is fairly polished. It's pleasant to use, despite its limitations...and the Programs Menu it provides is just nice.\\  Cairo can be run on top of the Explorer shell, but it also has the option of just straight-up replacing it...which means Explorer doesn't even load upon a log-in. I would not recommend replacing the Shell, as Cairo just isn't good enough to be used like that yet...and you'd need to replace File Explorer, because you ain't running that. Also, none of the wallpaper software will work, so you'll have to set the wallpaper yourself using the Cairo settings.\\  On top of all that, development is slow.\\
  
 ==== Seelen-UI ==== ==== Seelen-UI ====
  
-Now for Seelen. I briefly tried Seelen and, honestly, wasn't too impressed. Then again, I don't like Linux, so something intended to replicate it will not appeal to me.\\  Unlike Cairo, Seelen can only run on top of Windows, which means that it is not as resource-efficient. Also, unlike Cairo...it's just not as resource-efficient.\\  It is theoretically way more customizable than Cairo but, just like Cairo, this is not as straightforward as it could be. Also also, tracking down custom themes has been difficult for me.\\  It's more of a ‘make Win11 better’ than ‘make Win10 better’ applications. I don't have much else to say about it.+Now for Seelen. I briefly tried Seelen and, honestly, wasn't too impressed. Then again, I don't like Linux, so something intended to replicate it will not appeal to me.\\  Unlike Cairo, Seelen can only run on top of Windows, which means that it is not as resource-efficient. Also, unlike Cairo...it's just not as resource-efficient.\\  It is theoretically way more customizable than Cairo but, just like Cairo, this is not as straightforward as it could be. Also also, tracking down custom themes has been difficult for me.\\  It's more of a ‘make Win11 better’ than ‘make Win10 better’ application. I don't have much else to say about it.
  
 ==== Other Shells ==== ==== Other Shells ====
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     * Fixed!     * Fixed!
   * I'll leave a brief note here about //languages//. Most of the Aero/Vista/7 restoration is focused around //English//. Dealing with a different language is a bit more complicated, though it's not impossible...and I haven't tried yet, so I can’t give much advice beyond ‘find the corresponding mui files’.   * I'll leave a brief note here about //languages//. Most of the Aero/Vista/7 restoration is focused around //English//. Dealing with a different language is a bit more complicated, though it's not impossible...and I haven't tried yet, so I can’t give much advice beyond ‘find the corresponding mui files’.
-  * I'm not sure exactly where to note this, but you might have come across something called ‘Old New Explorer’. This application does a number of things related to restoring the ‘old’ File Explorer...making it resemble Windows 7's Explorer more. However, I wouldn't recommend using it nowadays because its functionality overlaps with Aerexplorer (the Windhawk mod) and ExplorerPatcher((:fn:>Something I'm also considering uninstalling because it overlaps with several Windhawk mods as well. I just don't see much of a point in keeping it.))+  * I'm not sure exactly where to note this, but you might have come across something called ‘[[https://msfn.org/board/topic/170375-oldnewexplorer-119/|OldNewExplorer]]’.((:fn:>I realized I had recommended it here, oops.)) This application does a number of things related to restoring the ‘old’ File Explorer...making it resemble Windows 7's Explorer more. However, I wouldn't recommend using it nowadays because its functionality overlaps with Aerexplorer (the Windhawk mod) and ExplorerPatcher((:fn:>Something I'm also considering uninstalling because it overlaps with several Windhawk mods as well. I just don't see much of a point in keeping it.)) 
 +  * Although I've made my Win10 install look more Aero, I haven't actually gone out of my way to make it as accurate to Vista or 7, meaning it's kinda a hybrid. This is mostly because I like how the Vista theme and taskbar look, for example, but I don't like a few specifics. I also originally disabled the ribbon in File Explorer, but ended up re-enabling it for the simple fact that I think it's actually good.
  
  
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