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lb:zelda [2025-08-13 18:50:50] ninjasrlb:zelda [2025-11-17 19:30:22] (current) – [Who did the Hero of Time have kids with?] I added a little extra. ninjasr
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 But that Adult Arc made me remember why I thought it was kinda mediocre. I think that if the manga were longer (maybe 1.5 or 2x longer), it would have been vastly improved. Though that probably wasn't possible. But that Adult Arc made me remember why I thought it was kinda mediocre. I think that if the manga were longer (maybe 1.5 or 2x longer), it would have been vastly improved. Though that probably wasn't possible.
 +=== Majora's Mask ===
 +The manga this time is about the same quality as //Ocarina of Time//. Though I //believe// that it's shorter than the last one – which is relevant because the story does feel overly condensed as compared to //Ocarina of Time//.
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 +I don't have much to say beyond that, honestly. I might later if I remember anything.
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 +Oh, right. There was a bonus story which offers a very mythical origin for Majora's Mask. I believe it was created //before// the game came out which is probably why it's so light on details. I think it's interesting, but I wasn't particularly impressed.
 +=== A Link to the Past ===
 +I finished it and, honestly, I think this is the worst one so far. Actually, //Majora's Mask// (or perhaps //Ocarina of Time//) started a trend that will plague all the manga: they're too short.
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 +Generally, all of the manga would be improved by having more time in-between events. But since they're so short, they have to condense the story //a lot//. It just so happens that the manga this time around is //very obviously// condensed.
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 +There's plenty of stuff in here that //is// interesting, but the short length means that we never really explore it (like the main villain having a connection to Link and Link's parents being involved).
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 +Also, unlike with the Hero of Time, the Link this time around doesn't have an obvious romantic connection with Zelda. They //do// like each-other, but I get the impression Link doesn't really see the situation in that way. Which is fitting because bandit waifu.
 ==== The Phantom Hourglass ==== ==== The Phantom Hourglass ====
 This is the first //Zelda// game I played and was my introduction to it in general. As a kid I...didn't finish it and, to this day, it remains unfinished. Some action bits were too difficult for me. This is the first //Zelda// game I played and was my introduction to it in general. As a kid I...didn't finish it and, to this day, it remains unfinished. Some action bits were too difficult for me.
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 Honestly, I don't mind this approach: I just wish that people didn't try to cram it all into one timeline. Or Nintendo attempting the same thing. Honestly, I don't mind this approach: I just wish that people didn't try to cram it all into one timeline. Or Nintendo attempting the same thing.
 +==== How many Links are related to each-other? ====
 +I'm making this section just to quickly jot down a thought I had: how many of the Links in Zelda are relatives?
  
 +So far, I think that the only definitive connection is between the <abbr>Hero of Time [Ocarina of Time]</abbr> and the <abbr>Hero of Twilight [Twilight Princess]</abbr>...the latter being descended from the former.\\
 +The Hero of Twilight may also be related to Zelda from Twilight Princess. Though this is speculative and you should read [[#whodidtheherooftimehavekidswith|the section below]].
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 +I think that, maybe, the <abbr>Hero of Hyrule [A Link to the Past]</abbr> is related to the Link from the first game, though that's a guess on my part.
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 +Oh, right: the Link from Spirit Tracks is definitely related to the <abbr>Hero of Winds [Wind Waker]</abbr> //and// Tetra. Which, yes, means that that Link is also related to Zelda.
 ==== Hylian Language Project ==== ==== Hylian Language Project ====
 There was a fan-made Hylian language at some point, which I learned of from [[https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Community:Hylian_Language_Project|here]]. I'm mentioning it just because, though I wouldn't call it especially notable. There was a fan-made Hylian language at some point, which I learned of from [[https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Community:Hylian_Language_Project|here]]. I'm mentioning it just because, though I wouldn't call it especially notable.
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 There is little evidence to suggest this, so consider it a crack theory. There is little evidence to suggest this, so consider it a crack theory.
 +=== Evil Hero & Donning the Hero's garb ===
 +One aspect of the overall Legend that raises questions is why nobody really recognizes Link as a hero despite him looking like the Heroes of legend. I mean: he's wearing green clothes in basically every game and many of the games have those other games as backstories. Additionally, it //is// confirmed that there are other heroes outside of the games...so the green clothing should be a telltale sign that Link is a hero.
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 +Along that line of thinking...what if somebody dons the hero's green clothes because they //want// to be a hero or wish to be //perceived// as a hero...but then end up bad? This is just a natural twist you could apply to the story, though I doubt Nintendo would ever.
 +==== Is the Triforce hereditary? ====
 +An issue I may have identified has to do with the Triforce. There is //some// evidence to suggest that //some// characters end up gaining the Triforce due to being related to someone who previously earned it.\\
 +I think that this applies to the Hero of Twilight (who inherits it from the Hero of Time, his ancestor) and Tetra (who inherits it from Ocarina!Zelda).
  
 +This raises not-great questions surrounding the Triforce. I may elaborate later.
 ==== The Prequel Problem ==== ==== The Prequel Problem ====
 I'm titling the section like this because it's catchy. I'm titling the section like this because it's catchy.
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 At a certain point you'll end up going so far back in time that there's no way you can take the worldbuilding seriously...though I think that this stage had been hit with Skyward Sword. The Minish Cap is debatable.((:fn:>Which is something I say because I get the feeling it leans more into that “Different variations of the same legend” idea than other games. This is just a ‘vibe’ I get from it though. If we run with that legend assumption, The Minish Cap is almost like the type of myth/legend that exists to help explain all the other legends...just that we're seeing them explaining the hat instead of why there are multiple Links.)) At a certain point you'll end up going so far back in time that there's no way you can take the worldbuilding seriously...though I think that this stage had been hit with Skyward Sword. The Minish Cap is debatable.((:fn:>Which is something I say because I get the feeling it leans more into that “Different variations of the same legend” idea than other games. This is just a ‘vibe’ I get from it though. If we run with that legend assumption, The Minish Cap is almost like the type of myth/legend that exists to help explain all the other legends...just that we're seeing them explaining the hat instead of why there are multiple Links.))
  
-One other issue with these prequels is that they end up undermining each-other. Zelda II introduced ‘Zelda I’ as the explanation behind all the girls in the Hyrulean royal family being named ‘Zelda’. But thanks to...//every game set before Zelda II//...that explanation makes no sense. You could excuse it with Link to the Past (if the Zelda there //really// pre-dates Zelda I) as one of the few Zeldas prior...but there is functionally no difference between “Zelda is just a popular name in the royal family~” and “All the girls are legally to be named ‘Zelda’.”+One other issue with these prequels is that they end up undermining each-other. Zelda II introduced ‘Zelda I’ as the explanation behind all the girls in the Hyrulean royal family being named ‘Zelda’. But thanks to...//every game set before Zelda II//...that explanation makes no sense. You could excuse it with Link to the Past (if the Zelda there //really// pre-dates Zelda I) as one of the few Zeldas prior...but there is functionally no difference between <q>“Zelda is just a popular name in the royal family~”</q> and <q>“All the girls are legally to be named ‘Zelda’.”</q>
 === Any true sequels? === === Any true sequels? ===
 Another issue that I noticed later – after counting the number of prequels among all the games and realizing that there aren't that many – is that there aren't a lot of sequels that are just...sequels.\\ Another issue that I noticed later – after counting the number of prequels among all the games and realizing that there aren't that many – is that there aren't a lot of sequels that are just...sequels.\\
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 Basically, what if each game is actually just an account of the same legend? Any differences between the accounts is explainable as geographic/chronological differences between each telling.\\ Basically, what if each game is actually just an account of the same legend? Any differences between the accounts is explainable as geographic/chronological differences between each telling.\\
 This would explain why the same stuff seems to happen over and over again, while the details change. This would explain why the same stuff seems to happen over and over again, while the details change.
-=== Evil Hero & Donning the Hero's garb === 
-One aspect of the overall Legend that raises questions is why nobody really recognizes Link as a hero despite him looking like the Heroes of legend. I mean: he's wearing green clothes in basically every game and many of the games have those other games as backstories. Additionally, it //is// confirmed that there are other heroes outside of the games...so the green clothing should be a telltale sign that Link is a hero. 
  
-Along that line of thinking...what if somebody dons the hero's green clothes because they //want// to be a hero or wish to be //perceived// as a hero...but then end up bad? This is just a natural twist you could apply to the story, though I doubt Nintendo would ever. 
 ==== Where did ‘Timeline Fever’ begin? ==== ==== Where did ‘Timeline Fever’ begin? ====
 Having started rewatching matthewmatosis’ review on Zelda (linked in Trivilinks), I started to wonder where exactly Nintendo decided that Zelda needed to consistently reference past games and maintain a strict continuity...well, ‘strict’.\\ Having started rewatching matthewmatosis’ review on Zelda (linked in Trivilinks), I started to wonder where exactly Nintendo decided that Zelda needed to consistently reference past games and maintain a strict continuity...well, ‘strict’.\\
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 All of this is important to know because the Hero of Twilight, if he bangs Zelda, might be banging his cousin. Though in that specific case, I think it's heavily implied by the game that they don't really see each-other in that way. Which may or may not suggest they can tell they're related. All of this is important to know because the Hero of Twilight, if he bangs Zelda, might be banging his cousin. Though in that specific case, I think it's heavily implied by the game that they don't really see each-other in that way. Which may or may not suggest they can tell they're related.
  
 +The other thing to consider regarding the above is that the Hero of Twilight is a nobody at the start of the game. In the manga, he's a soldier in a faraway location. Both of those harm the theory that Link and Zelda are related, though I don't think it's by much.\\ 
 +I'd have to think about it a little longer though.
 ==== Zelda Names ==== ==== Zelda Names ====
 Considering just how many Zeldas there are...I think that, realistically, girls in the Hyrulean royal family would start giving their daughters additional names to differentiate them from other Zeldas. Y'know, like how Mary-Jane is named Mary-Jane instead of just Mary. Considering just how many Zeldas there are...I think that, realistically, girls in the Hyrulean royal family would start giving their daughters additional names to differentiate them from other Zeldas. Y'know, like how Mary-Jane is named Mary-Jane instead of just Mary.
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