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--- lb:spider-man [2025-12-30 18:49:34] – ↷ Page moved from playground:spider-man to lb:spider-man ninjasr
+++ lb:spider-man [2025-12-30 19:01:27] (current) – Forgot some minor formatting. Probably still missing some stuff. ninjasr
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 Let me elaborate: by that point, I had already seen some pretty serious issues with the storytelling that I just couldn't get over. The most egregious one was the constant return of classic villains. Doc Ock is probably the most annoying...I honestly don't care what anyone tells me (not even the comic) because he //died in that nuclear explosion//, okay? No matter how they try to explain it, I think that he's already beyond the point of no return.\\
 The other issue is that the combat just isn't very good and it gets repetitive extremely fast. Actually, I'm reminded of [[lb:Persona#Persona 5]] here. In both Persona and here I wanted to avoid the fighting as much as possible, so I could get back to the actual fun part: the social interactions.\\
-The other other issue, which I think is much bigger, was that at some point the comic just started assuming you had been reading The Spectacular Spider-Man as well. The moment that really threw me for a loop was when I saw Gloria Grant as J. Jonah Jameson's secretary...because I hadn't seen //how// that happened at all. I then read through The Spectacular Spider-Man, finding out that //that// was where it was explained. And that wasn't a fun experience either, since Spectacular has worse writing and (at least at this stage) is even more combat-heavy than Amazing.
+The other other issue, which I think is much bigger, was that at some point the comic just started assuming you had been reading The Spectacular Spider-Man as well. The moment that really threw me for a loop was when I saw Gloria Grant((:fn:>They weren't even trying with her name, by the way. It's very obvious.)) as J. Jonah Jameson's secretary...because I hadn't seen //how// that happened at all. I then read through The Spectacular Spider-Man, finding out that //that// was where it was explained. And that wasn't a fun experience either, since Spectacular has worse writing and (at least at this stage) is even more combat-heavy than Amazing.
 I know that some of this can be solved by skimming, but I'm fundamentally allergic to skimming, so I took a break instead. I don't know when I'll get back to it.
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 When Peter was dating Betty, she didn't seem to care, and just saw Betty as competition for Peter.
 ==== Mary-Jane Watson ====
-MJ's entire section is a bit of a mess, so I'm just leaving it the way it is until I bother to look at it later. It's not the easiest to read thru, but I think it's understandable enough. It's also a bit out-of-date, since I think I wrote the previous draft of this article around the time I was up to Issue...30 of The Amazing Spider-Man. Yeah, I got like 162 more issues of content now. Though I'll need to refresh my memory.
+MJ's entire section is a bit of a mess, so I'm just leaving it the way it is until I bother to look at it later. It's not the easiest to read thru, but I think it's understandable enough. It's also a bit out-of-date, since I think I wrote the previous draft of this article around the time I was up to Issue...30 of <cite>The Amazing Spider-Man</cite>. Yeah, I got like 162 more issues of content now. Though I'll need to refresh my memory.
 In the films it's pretty obvious that MJ is dating the people she's dating for the sake of status, rather than actual love.\\
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 I also thought that the way Gwen's face was drawn made her look prettier than MJ. I found that deeply ironic, seeing as MJ was supposed to be the prettier one...at least that's what I think?
-There is something ironic to note about her portrayal in adaptations. She's absent in Spider-Man (1994), her role apparently being merged into Felicia Hardy. Though she appears in Spider-Man 3 (for some reason) and The Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2.\\
+There is something ironic to note about her portrayal in adaptations. She's absent in <cite>Spider-Man (1994)</cite>, her role apparently being merged into Felicia Hardy. Though she appears in <cite>Spider-Man 3</cite> (for some reason) and <cite>The Amazing Spider-Man 1</cite> & <cite>2</cite>.\\
-In Spider-Man 3 there's nothing much to say, at least for now.\\
+In <cite>Spider-Man 3</cite> there's nothing much to say, at least for now.\\
-In The Amazing Spider-Man, she is much warmer and snarkier than she is in the comics. And this is where the irony lies. MJ in the Raimi films resembles Gwen from the comics...but Gwen from the films resembles MJ from the comics. As a result, people might unfairly dislike MJ more than she deserves and like Gwen more when she's //not// Gwen.
+In <cite>The Amazing Spider-Man</cite>, she is much warmer and snarkier than she is in the comics. And this is where the irony lies. MJ in the Raimi films resembles Gwen from the comics...but Gwen from the films resembles MJ from the comics. As a result, people might unfairly dislike MJ more than she deserves and like Gwen more when she's //not// Gwen.
 ==== Harry Osborn ====
 Appears in issue 31.
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   * At this point someone might wonder why I haven't been filling these out. That's because it's very annoying to find all these links, so I wanted to find a way to make it easier for myself. Turns out that there //might// be a way, but I haven't figured it out yet. Specifically how to present it, because I can’t actually cleanly merge the links into the existing structure.
   * I noticed that I left this unfinished for a while...so I polished it a little to release it.
+  * I forgot to add sections on the Venom films. Ah well, later.