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Daeva
The Daeva are the āsexyā clan of vampires in Vampire: The Requiem, based on the stereotype of the vampire as a seducer. Their theme is āpassionā.
Iāll note that they are my personal favorite clan, just as the Toreador are as well. That said, I think that a lot of what I noticed is self-evident to anyone who thinks about it for longer than a minute.
Description
As is also the case with the Toreador, they may be the unambiguous good guys. In the sense that, being closest to humanity, they are the ones who theoretically possess the means to actually be nice. Thereās even some evidence in their clanbook (which weāll get to) to suggest there are a lot of them hopping around who donāt actually do much morally dubious (besides suck).
Media
Kiss of the Succubus - Daeva
So Iāve been reading this and, so far, I havenāt finishedā¦but here I feel thereās a big clash between how White Wolf sees the Daeva and how theyāre actually portrayed.
This critique of mine makes no sense if you assume that the tone of Chronicles of Darkness is eternal horror or whatever, but does make sense if you sit and think about the world for a minute ā like for Writing Notes for Vampires.
The book is split into two big parts. The first part is all lore/story and the second part is actual mechanics. The framing device is that the first part is composed of a bunch of papers that were left by a vampire guy ā who I call the āCollectorā ā after he disappeared. So besides the stuff he found/wrote/collected together, we also have some notes written by others looking at these materials.
It isnāt entirely clear who is going thru the notes, though thereās at least one ghoul/boy-toy involved. I say this because itās all a bit ambiguous. There are notes written in the margins and occasionally some sticky notes. It took a while for me to realize who was writing each sticky note.A)
In this book, the Daeva are usually portrayed as āpunk-ishā and āwhore-ishā. Thatās how Iād summarize it. Thereās a ātapeā that was recorded by a Sire to his new Childe where he states that the best strategy for long-term survival is to engage in a lot of casual sex and to find some guy whoās willing to cheat on his girlfriend/wife because they make the best blood bags long-term.
Now, putting aside my own moral views on this (itās a bit silly to bring in morality for a horror game about monsters), this advice (and the portrayal) donāt actually make a lot of sense when you consider the ānecrologyā of the vampires and how their societies function.
A vampire cannot possibly conclude that the best target for long-term sucking is someone who is in a relationship. And this, more than anything, suggests to me that White Wolfās writers really werenāt thinking. I go over why in Succubus Writing Notes so I recommend reading that so I donāt have to repeat myself.
Iād say that what we see in this book is like 50/50 in terms of quality. I havenāt finished it yet, though, so I might change my mind by the end. On the one hand, I find the writing style quite pleasant (the main reason Iām reading). On the other, there are very clear worldbuilding hiccups and most of the characters are not very sympathetic.
Kevin
The first major story in the clanbook is the one that really showcases this mix of quality. We have Kevin (the asshole) and we can see exactly how his life got hijacked by this vampire. That is really compelling, especially after she leaves and he doesnāt know where she went.
Then you read the āflirtingā and you think about a lot of what this vampire seductress (Madael, Mad) is doing and you get clinical depression.
Thereās a point where Kevin explains that vampires experience āone long nightā and thus have trouble telling what day it is and whatnot. His reasoning is that they donāt experience the day at all, which messes with their internal sense of time. The lack of natural pauses in their schedule means itās all one long stretch of time. He even notes that Mad uses showers as the pauses in her schedule. So, to her, a day starts and ends with a shower. This is very interesting and makes you think about what itās like to be a vampire.
Except that, no, that makes zero sense. Vampires enter an involuntary sleep during the day. So they do have a natural pause. Whether they dream or not is kinda irrelevant, because they still drop dead (literally) and wake up in the morning. And based on how the lore is written, the process of waking up is also not entirely trivial, so it would be a natural pause in their schedule.
The book is filled with these kinds of weird inconsistencies. You can see what the writers intended and then also see what they didnāt intend.
Madael herself is meant to be this super seductress, except that the first time she met Kevin (our guy) she didnāt really do anything explicitly to seduce him. It isnāt even clear if she used Majesty. The way she acts and phrases things seriously suggest she was giving Kevin an out constantly until he guesses sheās a vampire.
Now, Kevin claims she used Majesty and I can tell the writers intended for that to happen (and the ātapeā later suggests this too), but itās just as likely that Kevin was giving in just because. I tend to go for the latter, because he is portrayed as an asshole.
Mad herself actually tends to act pretty normal all things considered.
If you have trouble believing me, I would recommend you read back thru their initial interaction (and I think itās fine to skip over the āflirtingā because that is pain) and count every moment where Kevin had the opportunity to back off or not do something stupid. Itās notable to me that Kevin decided to lie to his girlfriend and turn off his phone notifications of his own free will. And Mad mentions multiple times that he lied to his girlfriend, which is a very unusual thing to say if youāre intending to seduce this man.
Thereās another thing that I think is notable, though this isnāt criticism, itās just an observation. Itās pretty obvious that Mad doesnāt hate Kevin, but she doesnāt love him either. Kevin thinks she does, but his own words on the matter fail to get that across. And I canāt tell if this is intentional or not on the part of the writers.
Basically, Mad and Kevinās relationship can be summarized as them engaging in sexual activities several times a week. And thatās about all that they do. There are only two-ish moments where Kevin and Mad donāt engage in anything sexual (he and her watch a TV show in-between the sex; she and him go to a dance). She cares for him, but not that much. I donāt think she had him mentally categorized as a boyfriend at all.
Also, he would have died from blood-loss considering how often she drank from him.
The other thing thatās weird about the book is the emphasis put on sex. Now, putting aside the fact that itās suggesting vampires arenāt fully ādeadāB) this still doesnāt make sense because, to a vampire, the Kiss (the slurp/suck/bite) is the sex. So far (Iām not at the mechanics/storyteller stuff yet), the book hasnāt actually done a good job explaining why a vampire would even bother. Itās just kinda assuming that vampires would want to.
This is even assumed in the comic tracts (which I love and would have wanted to see more of) which are written by vampires for vampires.
Why do Daeva want sex? Why would they ever even bother with the act? Itās mostly a waste of blood to them because they have to warm up to do it. I guess it could be tied into their clan weakness in the First Edition, but that still doesnāt really explain it, because not every Daeva necessarily has āLustā as their vice.
Ayesha
Sometimes the actual writings donāt make a lot of sense. Ayeshaās diary is written with dialog and descriptions. Why? Thatās not how you write a diary. Itās more like a transcript than a diary and is thus very unnatural.
Ah, I guess itās time to get to Ayesha.
Ayesha is a punk journalist and probably one of the bigger asshole characters in the book. I say this unironically after seeing Kevin. And Iām not just saying that because itās strongly implied sheās a lesbian.
Ayesha is a journalist (the real reason Iām saying sheās a bitch) who was tasked by her āfatherā to perform a job. Her āfatherā is the same one who is collecting all the materials that weāre reading from and itās somewhat implied that Ayesha is one of the two or three people going thru them after he disappeared somewhere.C)
The details of the job arenāt that important, but what is important to note is that she kills a lot of people. We never see her killing directly (weāre reading her diary) but during the course of the story she kills at least three and implies she killed several others in the past. This is her playing with her Humanity.
The reasons why she kills someone are pretty benign too. One of them she kills because he calls her a prostitute. I guess this could imply her Vice is Wrath?
Now, her killing people isnāt much of an issue (putting aside why she does it) and the bigger issue is that she seems uninterested in the Masquerade, which raises questions about how sheās even still alive.
Thatās the other thing: the Cacophany. Iām not 100% sure what it is (Iāve gotta read more of this lore manā¦), but its existence is kinda troubling in a worldbuilding sense. They are teetering on the edge and downright violating the Masquerade as a concept, so why they exist in the first place is a big question.
They claim that the Baby Boom in the 40s-60s led to an increase in illegal Embraces which resulted in a lot of vampires who needed help survivingā¦so the Cacophany formed as a way of distributing information among them. Ayesha is a journalist who worked for them to help distribute information to vampires.
Sounds pretty noble on the surface, except that this kind of operation would be noticed and crushed pretty quickly if we are to assume vampires are competent enough to run a society that has lasted centuries.
That is the other big problem with White Wolfās writings: you canāt have punk/whore vampires as the significant majority live alongside the Masquerade and societies. Vampires live a long time. Letās use Ayesha as an example.
She was probably Embraced in the late 60s or early 70s.D) By the time we see her, itās the modern day (around 2008 Iād say). That means that sheās been a vampire for approximately 30-40 years. Itās unusual that, in all that time sheās been unalive, sheās somehow maintained her āfight the powerā and punk attitude. She probably adopted the punk aesthetic in the 80s.
Iām not saying sheād become a straight conservative good girl, but itās still weird that sheās seemingly exactly the same.
See my Writing Notes for Vampires article for details. To sum it up though: vampires would be primarily conservative, cautious and so on. This applies more strongly in Requiem than in my writing notes, because Requiem confirms that the Covenants have been around for centuries. Even if vampires keep forgetting important details, theyād still prioritze stability. And thus a vampire like Ayesha would be locked up somewhere, executed or wouldnāt have been embraced in the first place. If sheās alive and still a punk, sheād be actively āre-educatedā until she submitted.
Actually, I realized the thing that makes this feel off. Sheās acting like a Brujah. From Masquerade. But sheās supposed to be a Daeva, so thatās probably one of the reasons it feels wrong.
Carmilla
The next major story/thing is related to Carmilla. Yeah, that Carmilla.
This one is actually a bit more interesting in a meta sense, because itās presented as an essay about Carmilla which is commented on by the Collector (and one other person, though I donāt know whoE)). It also has some lore that intrigues, rather than confuses.
I donāt really know where to rank this one, because I was mostly rolling my eyes at the HEY, SHEāS A LESBIAN, CARMILLAāS A LESBIAN AND ITāS SO AWFUL THAT LE FANU DIDNāT LIKE LESBIANS, which is written in-character, but itās still annoying to read.
The essay/thing is presented (in-universe) as an analysis of the historical character (who nobody apparently knows anything about) but is actually written by a vampire lady who likes the idea of Carmilla as a lesbian. It feels very White Wolf in that sense. The Collector sorta agrees that itās a bit weird.
The lore bit that I alluded to is that Carmilla was supposedly partially responsible for trying to revive the Camarilla ā the āNew Camarillaā. The author of the essay suggests that Carmilla is thus just a corruption of Camarilla (but doesnāt spend time on what that might mean).
The author of the essay (and the Collector seems to agree) that Carmilla doesnāt actually exist, but is more of a folklore/myth/idea.
The World Before Us
The next part of the book, which is written by the Collector about the history of the Daeva clan. I had assumed it was longer when I started writing this section only for it to be comparable in length to the smaller ones. Ah, well, Iāll reorganize all of this at some point.
Thereās a green sticky note here which refers to the Collector as ādadā which suggests the green notes were written by one of his children. I would have to check again, but Iām pretty sure this is either Ayeshe or one of the others. Ayeshe explicitly calls him ādadā and one of the others (though Iām not sure which, Iāll have to check ugh) calls him āold batā.F)
The green sticky calls him racist, which is actually understandable. Not a White Wolf moment. Though it could be argued to be.G)
The Collector claims that Kindred started in the city of Ur and his Childer disagree. Itās kinda amusing.
Basically, it starts off with an origin myth. All Daeva supposedly descend from Lilith who worked for Inanna who killed her and brought her back to life. Lilith apparently did a thing with Inannaās husband (Tammuz). Lilith was left behind when Inanna left.
Also, Inanna was Godās daughter. And God is named āSinā by the Collector. Sure, why not.
Emails
The next part involves emails between the Collector and a āscholarā (the guy who calls him āOld Batā and is named Nic) and itās here again that the sex thing comes up again. But now itās just kinda uncomfortable.
Basically, the scholar explains that heās living with three other vampire ladies. Two (Mat/Lishan) of them have admitted to being lovers and he (Nic) assumes that the last one (Katy) joins in with them. What do they do together? Drink each-otherās bloodH) and, according to his own speculationsā¦ācircle-lickā. Yeah, I think I finally understand how White Wolf failed to go big even after going Chronicles of Darkness.
Nic also clarifies that he has sex with Katy. But he makes it clear that thatās as far as it goes.
Seriously guys. Why are the vampires having sex? Nothing beats the KissI) and having sex is difficult considering theyāre supposedly all corpses. Meaning that requires warming up.
I suddenly remembered that Ayeshe wrote in her diary that she didnāt want to warm up for a hug with the Colonel in her segment. That implies that Kindred warm up to hug each-other? While I think thatās weird, thatās also something I think is very interesting and could tell us a lot about Kindred social dynamics. And itās treated super casually.
Anyway, back to reading about awkward sex. If we assume that they arenāt fully dead (and can thus sex without warming up) then that would make a little more sense, but the problem is that they would still likely feel way more numb. Iām not sure a male vampire can penetrate period, because that requires blood flow. Female vampires engaging in oral sex? M-maybeā¦?
If you think this is awkward to read, just remember that Iām the one reading the original. Though Iāll admit that Iām the only one here thinking about logistics.
I think it could be done but, again, theyād feel numb. Theyāre already supposedly drinking each-othersā blood so why are they bothering with the sex?
That also indicates to me that itās the authorās poorly-disguised fetish. Three sexy vampires in a circle. And the only guy is sexing one of them. Because itās just so uncomfortable.
After that, Nic goes back to focusing on the history of the Daeva clan and this part is legitimately interesting to read. Heās explaining what sources he found, how trustworthy they are, whatās in them (vaguely) and some extra details surrounding them. The ones he found were ballads collecting stories written in English and Welsh and he doesnāt know who wrote them and who the sources of those ballads are.
He concludes that these āBlood Balladsā were an attempted reconstruction of the old myths, gathered based on the testimony of several elders.
He adds in a later email that the Lancae et Sanctum had elders who memorized the Testament of Longinus (basically vampire Bible) which is also super interesting.
These elders would recount the Testament to others and then, eventually, flayed themselves to use their own skin to write it down. Most copies of the Testament of Longinus are based on these original Bibles (though Nic says that heās never seen one).
Nic explains that he thinks that āSinā is linked to Mount Sinai. Interesting theory, I guess.
Basically, following that initially uncomfortable bit about lesbian vampires, the rest of the emails are actually concerned completely with speculating about the history of the Daeva. Nic adds that thereās a Roman historian who mentioned the āJuliiā but he doesnāt know who they are and he doesnāt think theyāre Daeva.
Then he explains that a separate historian mentioned ādegeneratesā who are prostitutes and whatnot. Yay, a connection!
The emails end with Nic being unethical by sharing scans of the āGospel of Jamesā. The gist of it is that Mary had several dead children before Jesus (the first named James) who ended up growing up despite being dead. They then saw Jesus die and were to speak to Longinus at some point.
Nic suggests this as an alternative origin point for the Daeva.
Thatās the end of this bit. The next is a film script.
Other
There are other stories and materials interrupting the main stories, or placed in-between.
Iām naming these out-of-order to be clear.
For example, thereās one in which a vampire is talking to his (presumed) sire about his āsisterā: the American Dreamgirl. While I think this story is pretty meh overall (her being the basis of all of those 50s/60s girls is a bit implausible), I think the ending is pretty great.
Basically, our vampire narrator/protagonist was sent by his sire to talk to her (presumably an interview of some kind) and she implies that she needs vampire blood to drink because human blood is ātoo thinā
. So his sire sent him to her as a snack. He runs away (and then, dumbass that he is, goes back to her). The ending involves him explaining to his sire that heās going back to meet her and he tells him a secret: āShe knows who you are.ā
Very nice.
Thereās a letter written by one of the relatives of the collector vampire, who is basically saying āIām not crazy, Iām just gonna have a drink and also I miss you mom.ā
which is more Daeva-like, but in the overly poetic and annoying way.
Thereās a ātapeā ā a transcript of a tape recording ā made by a sire to his new childe before he ditched her. Itās filled with information to help her survive her new unlife. I think this is one of the better parts of the book, because it actually communicates the worldbuilding well.
The issue is that, again, thereās a lot of unusual emphasis placed on sex. And itās where the bizarre line about adultery comes from.
Following Ayeshaās story, thereās an article for a vampire magazine written by a guy who was talking about his āfriendā (Aubrey, a conspiracy nut in his eyes) and the Masquerade. I think itās an interesting article, though (just like with Ayesha) I donāt have much sympathy for the writer because heās a journalist.
Itās implied that he screwed up and is gonna be executed because someone caught him.
The more important thing to me here is the implication that most vampires donāt like each-other. And that doesnāt make a lot of sense to me. This impression is there in a lot of the other stories, but itās here that itās most obvious. This guy has a vampire friend named Aubrey and the way he talks about her implies that he doesnāt actually like her at all. He thinks sheās hot (and he gets turned on by the way she speaks), but otherwise he doesnāt like her.
The other vampires thruout the book also have similar attitudes. The one vampire who doesnāt seem to dislike any other vampire ā excluding Mad, who never interacts with another one ā is the collector. Seriously. Heās the only one who never comes off as hating any other vampire and, in fact, he is the most empathetic of the vampires. He even feels bad for Kevin.
I think this is another White Wolf moment because vampires logically wouldnāt hate each-other: they canāt afford to if they want to live for centuries. Iām not saying that hatred is impossible, just that it wouldnāt be as widespread as it seems to be depicted.
Trivilinks
āIāll have to check that later.āProbably the Requiem core rulebook.